What is a soul?

I have several thougths on this. To begin with I believe the notion of what is physical to be just that. We now understand our physical bodies are simply energy in a given state. I also recognise the force of me. As to wether or not I cease to be when I die. Part of me questions although there is no point to an answer. Live this life for what it is. There is much to learn. The other part of me has no doubt. This would involve my personal experience with the death of my mother. Yes. There is a real backlash that tends to happen involving anything with "religious" conotations. Many people give religions a bad name. I do recognise that science is a religion to many. As I have stated before in other threads, If you believe all answers can be found through science then it is your religion. I simply see science as a tool which provides facts based on measurement. Interpretation is where any religion gets messy

I have. That is the point. It is you who have made the some sort of distinction between losing a limb and the capacity to recall a memory.
I do not. Perhaps you would like to elaborate your understanding of any distinction you percieve.

Ah, yes, the expression of ones faith. I do not see life forms simply as recievers. We also transmit and create new information and new understanding of old information. A dream is not incomprehensible. Niether is any thought expressed through descriptive language either spoken or writen. We do the understanding in a way the aproach of science can not. The aproach of science is just one aspect of us. Yes, I agree, life is a journey. You may be correct. This may be a motivation for some. I do not know.Edited by 2ice_baked_taters, : No reason given.

I recognise my description of the loss of 2 capacities by physical dammage. Why, Yes I do.To my understanding learning is something we do with intent. We strive to understand. We do not intend to unlearn. Loss of information or access to it by physical dammage is the nature of alzhiemers. The person still fights to comunicate. They strive to be heard. Their memories return for periods. Alzhiemers patients understand the loss of ability they are enduring. Explain to me the way in which you see the two to be anologous because to me they are not even close.

Good question. Haven't got a clue. I have empathetic hopes for the best, whatever that may be. At some point I may find out.

How are you defining learning and forgetting? If you have 2 legs you have the capacity to run. If you lose them or are paralized you have lost your capacity/ability to run.
If you are a pilot with the capacity to pilot planes and you go blind you will have lost your capacity to fly.There is nothing nonsensical about it. Capacity and ability are interchangable. No, you interpret that. To learn something is to understand it to some capacity. I see a clear distinction between memorization and interpretaion/understanding. So if one needs to learn what learning is before one can intend to do so how can one learn initially? Simple data storage is meaningless. But that is the way you seem to be interpreting "learning"
Learning is also the understanding and interpretation of what we encounter. Yeah, so do I. Or if it is actually gone but inaccessable. As evident when alzhiemers patients have good days and bad. Or when a coma patient awakens. Where do our memories go when we sleep? We do not recall sleeping. What's up with that?

Yes. The wonderful messages that show up on packaging. Is that with ultaviolet or infrared light? I forgret.But this does not fit my definition of learning. It falls more in line with information storage.It does illustrate that we opperate on more than one level at a time. One wonders with the barage of subliminal messages if we become desensitized to it?Edited by 2ice_baked_taters, : No reason given.

I am curious what you mean by this statement.

This is what you said: No. We have a very different definition of what learning encompases.Storing it does not. Understanding the concept with the ability to apply it. Having that understanding brings fundamental meanings which people base their lives upon. A persons entire life and motivation will center upon one or a handful of fundamental understandings.
Alzheimers does not neccessarily "clean it out." This again illustrates our difference of definition.
I do not believe there is such a thing. Exactly what difference there is between conscious and unconscious thought is all theory at best so where intent applies, where it begins or ends, is simply not yet clear.

I am suggesting that an idea is a non physical reality as we understand physical "whatever physical is"
We bring it to reality as we understand it. Writing, engineering, music..ect are all examples. They are all nothing till we make them something in the understanding of reality we share. It is obvious to me we function in a reality science does not yet understand, if it can.

I am not sure how God is a pivitol factor. Since this is Faith/belief how is it that "soul" makes no sense to you?
The entire concept of belief cannot be tested, defined uniquely, examined or presented in the manor you hint at. It is not physical in the sense you grasp for. It's affects on the "phyical" world are.

Well this is where belief comes in. How you see things is what will define your reality. If you are to take this point of view you must apply it with continuity. This conversation would be meaningless as you suggest all things are. If that is the case I am wasting my time
attempting to comunicate with a meaningless chemical reaction. If this is not the case you must declare it so. What say you? Or the understanding that science does not offer us an answer.

This depends upon ones understanding. I am a soul. I affect the world. To you perhaps. Is this your belief? I can only tell you it makes perfect sense to me. What will define you? How you define yourself, is what you will be. I have made my choice. What are you?

What do you believe is evidence? Your idea of evidence is likely my idea of your belief.
The concept of soul fits my definition and understanding of a sense of who I am. I declare it. It is one aspect of how I define myself. I choose to identify with this. That you can make no sense of it is unimportant. What you declare yourself is. It will define "you" and how and if we will interact. Your belief that soul makes no sense is a choice based on belief. This is not a problem to me. If you are not a soul, to me, you are "not". Then I simply experience a meaningless causal effect. I believe that is not the case. I have faith that you are more. That is what this thread is about. No need to appologise. Faith makes no sense by this definitionless definition, yet it exists and makes sense to me. What is it about soul that is senseless to you and why? What makes sense to you?

When your done rolling on the floor with your feet in the air perhaps you will finally explain your view.