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Author Topic:   What Is The Positive Evidence For Atheism?
bluegenes
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Message 242 of 301 (437139)
11-28-2007 10:56 PM
Reply to: Message 233 by Cold Foreign Object
11-28-2007 10:34 PM


Re: Atheist Hypocrites....
GOD/Ray writes:
Crashfrog has said many times that evolution supports the non-existence of God, has he changed his view? Has he departed from his hero Richard Dawkins?
The point that people like Dawkins make is that evolution takes away the necessity for a direct creator God of life. However, it does not in anyway disprove that a God created this universe. It is evidence against a simpleton's concept of a God, if you like.

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bluegenes
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Message 258 of 301 (437241)
11-29-2007 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 256 by NosyNed
11-29-2007 11:32 AM


Copyright
Ned writes:
For sure, you'd better not hold your breath.
As if anyone was.
Actually, Ray could post the basis of his idea on this site, and the site records plus all of us as witnesses would easily protect his rights.
I wonder where he's been doing his research?
I mean, which parts of the Book of Genesis haven't others been over with a fine tooth comb?

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bluegenes
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Message 268 of 301 (437366)
11-29-2007 7:50 PM
Reply to: Message 266 by Lithodid-Man
11-29-2007 7:14 PM


Re: Wrong! Perhaps we need to revisit 101...
Lithodid-Man writes:
I stated that atheism is, like religion, a philosophical position and rooted in faith.
I think you said that philosophical materialism was a faith, not atheism. Atheists are people who lack faith in any Gods, but they are not necessarily philosophical materialists (some Buddhists and Animists, for example, plus atheists/spiritualists etc., plus people who think there might be other universes, not necessarily all material in the way we would understand the word).
However, you have now stated a faith that atheism is rooted in faith. I assure you, as an atheist, that it requires no faith to lack faith in anything for which there is no evidence, from Santa Claus to any Gods you care to mention. Faith in supernatural beings for whom there is no evidence is active, lack of it is just passive sanity.
ABE: The rest of your post is absolutely correct, as is the one above, and not even a matter of opinion, but of definitions. Many of us have made the same point on EvC (I use the word naturalism where you use materialism), and you put it very well.
Edited by bluegenes, : afterthought

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