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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
quote: NASA has used evolutionary algorithms to produce a better antenna. You can see a description of the process here. The new antenna looks like this:
Any other questions? Edited by subbie, : Subtitle change Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
There have been many, many observed instances of speciation. Talk Origins discusses some of them here.
Now, you are the one who is going to try to pull a smoke and mirror trick by saying that you want to see more change than just speciation. You want to see a change in kind. However, it will be impossible for us to show this, because you can't give any coherent definition of kind. Edited by subbie, : Subtitle Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
The antenna was manufactured based on plans that were developed by a blind, non-thinking process.
I imagine you are going to point out that an intelligent being manufactured the antenna, and you would be correct. But that would be irrelevant to the question you posed that I was answering. You asked for the creation of significant new information by a blind non-thinking process. The information that was created was the design of the antenna. That it was manufactured by an intelligence makes no difference, the information, the design, was created without intelligent intervention. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Be man enough to admit when you're wrong. Or if you think I'm wrong, tell me why. But don't puss out.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Tell you what, instead of guessing, why don't you read about it? Click on the link and see how they did it. It's really not that complicated. Then you can mischaracterize it in your own words rather than just quibbling with my description.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
I simply brought up "kind" in an effort to head off where I thought you were going. If I was wrong, ignore the "kind" issue and tell me why the observed instances of speciation don't satisfy your claim that such changes haven't been observed.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Well done. Ignore the evidence and simply claim victory. Assume that intelligence must have been involved in the design process. At least that's consistent with the overall creo game plan.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
The question I was answering didn't have anything to do with genomes. You simply asked for
significant new information from a blind non-thinking source . Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
I'm talking about the actual process that NASA used. You can find it here.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
But you didn't ask for something that came from natural causes with no help from an intelligent source. You asked for
significant new information from a blind non-thinking source.
And that's exactly what I provided. You know, it seems to me that this discussion would proceed much more efficiently if you would remember the questions you actually ask. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
It was brought to fruition by a team of the most brilliant minds in the world. And they understand that it is new information from a blind non-thinking source. What makes you think you are in a better position to evaluate the process than they are?
Good night, and may His Noodly Appendage cast its blessings upon you. RAmen. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Mutations create new information.
Gosh, you sure ask easy questions. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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