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cavediver Member (Idle past 3672 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined:
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A Thread is born. A grand future can be seen. Such hope. Three messages, one of them administrivia, then WHAM! The stupid rains. To be fair, the thread was more of: OP: How? Admin: Promote Percy: Like this. See here. 8 months of silence Then WHAM! The stupid arrives... You ignored it for 8 months so you can't really complain when it gets used for idiot baiting But I'm all ears if anyone wants to go forward on a more positive note...
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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You ignored it for 8 months so you can't really complain when it gets used for idiot baiting I was travelling at the time. I was doing 97.2% light speed. It's only been a few minutes.
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3672 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined:
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I was travelling at the time. I was doing 97.2% light speed. It's only been a few minutes. Hmmm.... 8 months, 97.2%, few minutes? something doesn't sound quite right....
Aha, so by my calculations it has actually been at least 1.88 months... err, oh, you were making a joke
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
But I'm all ears if anyone wants to go forward on a more positive note... Good ... Thank you. As I understand, the latest estimates are closer to 150+- bly diameter. This from the measurements of the ever-so-slight curvature we are seeing. How is this measured? What are the limits within the error bars?
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lyx2no Member (Idle past 4745 days) Posts: 1277 From: A vast, undifferentiated plane. Joined: |
81.2 thousand minutes.
AbE: Well, so much for my grand entrance. Edited by lyx2no, : Why not? "Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3672 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
Well, so much for my grand entrance. Ahh, twas only yesterday that I was wondering where you had skulked off to...
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
oh, you were making a joke No. At my age time goes by so quickly that 1.88 months is actually just a few minutes.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Sorry to throw a wrench in your theory but can you tell me what the speed of thought is compared to the speed of light? Oh wait, your cosmologists never considered that as a viable question to even be asked, have they? So by what standard do you secularists think you have considered all possible scenarios regarding where we are, how old time and space is, how large and expansive it is or how far into it we can see? Of course the speed of thought is just word salad, a totally meaningless assertion meant as an attempt to misdirect the audience attention so that they don't realize the rest of the paragraph is just misrepresentation and irrelevancies. Nothing in this thread is related to secularists. For example, the initial description and calculations that became the Big Bang Theory was formulated by Monsignor Georges Henri Joseph douard Lematre, a priest and astronomer. It is understood and accepted by educated Christians worldwide. The expansion of the Universe is NOT a secular idea or issue, only one of knowledge versus ignorance. The second misrepresentation you make is asserting that anyone thinks "have considered all possible scenarios regarding where we are, how old time and space is, how large and expansive it is or how far into it we can see". It is only ignorant Christians that make any claims of knowing all the answers. The third and possible the greatest misrepresentation in that paragraph is your assertion that we know how big things are. What we can know is a minimum size and age. We can know that we can see at least 13 billions light years and so the universe is at least 13 billion years old. Speaking to you as one Christian to another, it is a shame that you worship such a small and dishonest version of GOD. Learn a little, you will find that GOD is far greater than the pitiful little bling-bling pimp daddy critter you seem to worship. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3672 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
As I understand, the latest estimates are closer to 150+- bly diameter. This from the measurements of the ever-so-slight curvature we are seeing. I'm not so sure about this. Do you have a reference? Our estimates of the curvature still straddle zero, so don't help much! As far as I am aware, the figure quoted by Percy is still approximately correct.
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Archangel Member (Idle past 1386 days) Posts: 134 Joined: |
Archangel writes: So tell me genius, how many other UNIVERSES have we observed beside our own? cavediver writes: Hmmm, the stupid is strong with this one... The only stupid one here is the guy who's lying about being something he isn't as he claims other universes have been identified to be older than their age signifies. But at least you're a consistent liar who will revert to childish mockery and ill-placed arrogance rather than actually producing evidence for what you claim. But of course none of you produced evidence for anything at all, you just post self serving drivel that attempts to elevate you above those who reject your inane tripe and dares to actually say it to you. Edited by Archangel, : No reason given.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3320 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Jesus h christ, do you have a neurological disorder that prevents you from recognizing sarcasm and humor?
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3672 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined:
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But at least you're a consistent liar who will revert to childish mockery and ill-placed arrogance rather than actually producing evidence for what you claim. You back for more? Really? After demonstrating to everyone what a fuckwit you are? Is that wise? Listen, son, you turn up here knowing nothing and you make wide-sweeping accusations against whole bodies of professional scientists. Already you're a dick in everyone else's eyes. As I am one of those scientists, I take particular offense. You then reveal just how unbelievably stupid you are by completely failing to appreciate the nonsense with which I was mocking you. Grow up a bit, say give it ten years to be safe, then come back and try asking a few questions politely, and we may get somewhere. Being a Christian creationist doesn't automatically mean you have to behave like a jerk - so don't do it, ok?
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frako Member (Idle past 334 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
cavediver hit the nail on the head when he wrote that
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 377 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined:
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cavediver says; very true - but us cosmologists don't give a shit about problems and discrepancies in our theories. We just like to make up shit to demonstrate how much more clever we are than plebs like you. and
Oh, don't forget that us cosmologists are a bunch of pseudo-scientific wankers. We're not going to explain this to you - we *want* you to be confused Ha...I knew it! I am going back to my flat earth where the scientists either go to church or jail and all the dragons are clearly marked on the map. Edited by Dogmafood, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
I owe, I owe, so off to work I went.
I'm not so sure about this. Do you have a reference? Yes. All wrong. After some research (yes, at work) I found this in the Wiki article cited:
quote: Sure enough the cites (16, 17, 18) were my sources. So I struck on the erroneous reports. Did I just lose my Not Too Stupid rating? Have to admit, though, the subtitle is nice, as requested.
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