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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes:
So they were not Fundamentalists. One down. Again, some aspects of Puritans were not Biblically fundamental, but the ones which were Biblical fundamental headed the America in the right direction. Some of the Biblical fundamentals of them were significant improvements over those of Anglicans and RC. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Since I'm the one being required to provide evidence, and considering how little time I have to be on line, don't expect a lot of fast responses. I'm slowing my input to this thread down. It takes research time etc to provide the amount of evidence being demanded from me.
This is the Coffee House, where aspects of the supernatural will be a factor. Case in point: nations supportive to Israel and those against Israel. Blessings are promised by the Biblical god, Jehovah on nations supportive to Israel. The causations happen to be, in part, historical and in part supernatural. Historically, nations against Israel have not been free and prosperous. Notice I said free as well as prosperous. Some have been fairly prosperous at times, but not necessarily free, Nazi Germany, for example. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
arachnophilia writes: Buzsaw writes: the Biblical god, Jehovah the god of the bible is named יהוה, not "jehovah". In the US we speak and translate into English.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
arachnophilia writes: Buzsaw writes: arachnophilia writes: Buzsaw writes: the Biblical god, Jehovah the god of the bible is named יהוה, not "jehovah". In the US we speak and translate into English. that's great buz, but "jehovah" is not the english version of יהוה. It's your notion against nearly all of the scholared translators who would not agree with you, according to their translations. Regardless, this is not the topic of this thread. I don't wish to debate it with your and I hope you will leave off of it.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes:
The question remains: How do "New Testament Fundi Christians Bless Atheists, Roman Catholics And Others"? Evidence Buz, where is the evidence? 1. Since fundi Christians are largely messianic, they are one of the greatest factors in the preservation and support of Israel. This involves the promises of Jehovah of blessings on nations supportive to Israel. History appears to support this. 2. Fundi Christians are evangelistic, converting many from agnosticism and atheism. Evangelism staves off atheism and agnosticism. History attests to the fact that, for the most part, citizens of secularist nations which have banned Bibles, persecuted fundi Christians and banned fundi evangelical churches have not been free or prosperous.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
ringo writes: Buzsaw writes:
He seems to have blessed the Arab nations with a lot of oil. Apparently, He supports their policies. This involves the promises of Jehovah of blessings on nations supportive to Israel. Void of the gospel of Jesus and the fundamentals of the NT, the people live in poverty and oppression. The oil does little for the welfare of the citizenry. Yet how many palatial mansions did Saddam Hussein have. Something like a dozen? According to the Abrahamic Covenant, they are cursed of Jehovah because they curse Israel. Thus Israel wins the wars regardless of the odds. Prophetically, a coalition of Arab, Russian, North Africa and Eastern Europe will eventually invade Israel at Armageddon, taking part of Jerusalem and ravishing women, etc. Jesus then appears to save a remnant for his kingdom. This is my understanding of Ezekiel 38 and 39 as well as some other prophets like Zechariah and Isaiah. Until then, Israel remains impenetrable nationally. There will be a treaty prophetically. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: quote: Again, evidence Buz. How is that blessing Atheists, Roman Catholics and others? Cause and Effect. The ones blessed happen to live in the nation being blessed of Jehovah because of the constituency in the nation supportive to Israel.
Jar writes: Why should the Fundi Christians not be considered the greatest threat the world faces particularly if as you claim "Since fundi Christians are largely messianic, they are one of the greatest factors in the preservation and support of Israel."? Now it's time for you to show evidence how being messianic relative to Jesus at Jerusalem is the greatest treat to the world. They kill no one. They invade no nation They preach love and the gospel. They tell what governments and Jesus will do to effect that kingdom. That's it. Explain who that threatens and why. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
PaulK writes: quote: That's just more assertion, not evidence. This is the Coffee House. A lot is asserted here by us all. I'm asserting that the cause and effect of our blessings are largly due to the fact that Jehovah exists and that his covenants are to be taken seriously.
quote: Paulk writes: I'll leave Jar to explain his own thinking, but I have some comments here. You can't simultaneously boast of supporting Israel in oppressing and driving out innocent Arabs and then proclaim your own goodness because you don't personally participate. And what about Iraq ? It seems to me that fundie Christians had rather a lot to do with that invasion. This fundie Christian never did sanction the occupation of Iraq. Governments and fundies are apples and oranges so far as responsibility.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
That's your opinion and nothing more PD. Do you believe in the Abrahamic Covent to which I alluded. Evidently not. Do I have hard evidence that Jehovah exists and that the Abrahamic Covenant, to which Biblical fundies ascribe to, is causational? Likely most here would say no.
Again, here in the Coffee House a lot of conjecture, aspects of the supernatural and assertions get aired. You're trying to hold me, Buzaw, to requirements, ne'er before required. You need to revisit some of the stuff aired in the Coffee Shop. If you don't agree, give it your best shot. I'm likely going to take issue some of your points. I intend to respond to your previous post, when I get to it, but I'm out of town a lot and very busy these days, so bear with me. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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