Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 64 (9164 total)
3 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,877 Year: 4,134/9,624 Month: 1,005/974 Week: 332/286 Day: 53/40 Hour: 0/4


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Occupy Wall Street, London and Evereywhere Else
Artemis Entreri 
Suspended Member (Idle past 4256 days)
Posts: 1194
From: Northern Virginia
Joined: 07-08-2008


(1)
Message 131 of 208 (643615)
12-09-2011 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by RAZD
12-09-2011 1:54 PM


Re: really?
So you find it amusing when law abiding US citizens are beaten up by police and arrested for VERY minor (trumped up?) charges?
Usually when you resist arrest you get beat up. While that may be a minor charge for you, I do not consider it minor.
Charges that were not used for the first several days -- does this mean they were okay until they were arrested?
They were probably tolerating the trespassers in an attempt to find another solution to the problem rather than out right arrest.
Is this the kind of police treatment you expect for a speeding violation?
I don’t know, I do not speed.
You are advocating breaking the law and revolution.
No I am not, I was wondering how many posts it would take before you started building one of your famous RAZD strawmen? What was it 2 responses?
Occupy is advocating working within the laws and the evolution of a more just government.
Riiiight. That is why so many people get arrested at OWS events, while the terrorist racist tea party people don’t get arrested at their events. Do you live in the twilight zone?
City Hall Park -- not city hall. The park is public land.
It’s not for bums and squatters, to camp out on. You visit a park enjoy it, and leave it, you don’t stay for weeks, and litter all over the place, and then refuse to leave when asked by city authorities.
Rather ironic that a vet from the Iraq war, dedicated to protecting the US Constitution, is injured by projectiles fired from police rifles in the US, yes?
Not ironic at all, that our police use non-lethal, and less-than-lethal means of crowd control and dispersal. What is ironic is that hippies think our methods are the same as the methods used in Bahrain, Syria, and Libya, and try to actually act like they know what they are talking about.
Do you think it is just for a CEO to "earn" over a million dollars a year, while their lowest paid employee's annual salary is below the poverty line?
I thought that was just a rhetorical question.
To hell with your wife and kids, eh? parents? uncles? aunts? grandparents? grandchildren?
No family is protected because blood is thicker than water, but those outside of the family? whatever.
Amusingly, there are rats that behave better
Nah we are either a higher evolved species, or God created us to rule this planet.
Amusing that you think rats behave better you silly hippy. Once again don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 125 by RAZD, posted 12-09-2011 1:54 PM RAZD has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 189 by RAZD, posted 12-24-2011 12:44 AM Artemis Entreri has not replied

  
Artemis Entreri 
Suspended Member (Idle past 4256 days)
Posts: 1194
From: Northern Virginia
Joined: 07-08-2008


Message 132 of 208 (643616)
12-09-2011 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 130 by hooah212002
12-09-2011 3:19 PM


Re: really?
i have lasted this long.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 130 by hooah212002, posted 12-09-2011 3:19 PM hooah212002 has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 135 by hooah212002, posted 12-09-2011 3:54 PM Artemis Entreri has replied

  
Artemis Entreri 
Suspended Member (Idle past 4256 days)
Posts: 1194
From: Northern Virginia
Joined: 07-08-2008


(1)
Message 133 of 208 (643617)
12-09-2011 3:30 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by Rahvin
12-09-2011 12:42 PM


Re: hear from a conservatively inclined but not entirely lunatic person
Rahvin writes:
Often it's not even bad advice, AE. A person graduating with a Bachelor of Science degree any time in the past 3 years or so would have had a lot of trouble finding employment - millions of people, many of them with the same degrees and experience were being laid off from their existing positions and even they haven't all been able to find work yet.
Interesting, that my friends younger brother graduated from college in late 2008, with a liberal arts degree from a smaller state school (James Madison University). He ran into the same problem. But with Iraq and Afghanistan employing out military industrial machine, he looked in to the military. As a college graduate he went to OCS, and is now getting ready to make Captain. He works in for the Navy in their HR department, it is a total poag job, almost the same as the corporate office job that he thought he would get anyway, and making good money. We are always fighting wars with someone over their resources (I mean to liberate them), an people always overlook the military.
Those who have found work have often found it working minimum-wage jobs where their degrees are irrelevant in food service, retail, etc.
Sometimes you really can do everything right and still get screwed over.
Yeah. I graduated in 2002 with a BS in history and geography, it was 2006 till I got a job in the field I wanted. I worked as a pizza delivery guy, and a bouncer; I was doing whatever it took to get by. And yeah it sucked, but I wasn’t going to whine and cry about it, because that doesn’t pay the bills either.
And what happens? More and more people without jobs. Without jobs, those people apply for unemployment insurance, food stamps, and other government assistance, draining public coffers. Without jobs, they pay less taxes as they buy less (local and state governments often rely heavily on sales tax) and make less money (meaning they often won;t pay any income tax because they literally can't afford to pay any more tax and still eat). Lower tax revenue means less money for the unemployment insurance and food stamp programs that are keeping those people fed and housed (even if barely). The state and local governments then need to lay off their own workers because they don;t have the tax revenue to pay them. With even more unemployed people out hunting for very, very few jobs, competition becomes even worse. Local businesses see revenue drop because a significant portion of their customers lost their jobs. Many of them close. More unemployed, less tax revenue, more unemployed... Now the state can't afford to pay all the teachers, so many of them get laid off and children get pushed into more and more overloaded classrooms. The schools can't afford to pay for supplies, either. More unemployed, less tax revenue, kids set up for less success in the future. Now the state can;t afford to fix roads or pay all the firefighters...
Yeah but are we entitled to all that stuff? All that stuff is a relatively recent thing. My grandparents didn’t have all of that. Its pretty much just been my parents and me. Maybe the system we thought was Ideal was not sustainable.
How long could you live in a your home if you were laid off because your employer suffered in the down economy? A year? Six months? Six weeks? How long do you think it would take you to find a new job if that happened?
I work for uncle sam. If the economy kills him and his business, I think we have some real problems to deal with. I have set myself up to be pretty employable, I do not think it would take any longer than a month or two to find another job.
But for some reason our society as a whole seems to want to ignore the lessons of the past. People claim that "government is bad" and use that axiom as reasoning to limit or even dismantle regulations that have protected us for years, regulations that gave us the most prosperous economy in the world for two generations.
Well they are very bad at running things.
How is it "good" that Bank of America can take my savings and use that money to make risky investments, where I and others can lose everything if those investments go south, and where I and others don;t see a dime if the investments do well?
Well it is a place to store your money. I guess you could just keep it at home in safe, or something. As far as you loosing money from bad bank investments, I would guess you have to be observant on which bank you choose to bank with.
Hard work used to pay off. Now, exploiting your neighbors pays off, and hard work gets you a wage that stagnates while your cost of living rises, slowly drowning you in expenses.
I don’t see things having changed that much, that seems to have always been the game.
Glad you stopped lurking and started posting.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 121 by Rahvin, posted 12-09-2011 12:42 PM Rahvin has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 134 by Rahvin, posted 12-09-2011 3:44 PM Artemis Entreri has replied

  
Artemis Entreri 
Suspended Member (Idle past 4256 days)
Posts: 1194
From: Northern Virginia
Joined: 07-08-2008


Message 137 of 208 (643621)
12-09-2011 4:51 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by hooah212002
12-09-2011 3:54 PM


Re: really?
ya rly
im totally off the grid.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 135 by hooah212002, posted 12-09-2011 3:54 PM hooah212002 has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 140 by hooah212002, posted 12-09-2011 5:03 PM Artemis Entreri has seen this message but not replied
 Message 141 by Son, posted 12-09-2011 5:18 PM Artemis Entreri has seen this message but not replied
 Message 146 by Shield, posted 12-10-2011 7:32 PM Artemis Entreri has replied

  
Artemis Entreri 
Suspended Member (Idle past 4256 days)
Posts: 1194
From: Northern Virginia
Joined: 07-08-2008


(1)
Message 138 of 208 (643622)
12-09-2011 4:52 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by Rahvin
12-09-2011 3:44 PM


Re: hear from a conservatively inclined but not entirely lunatic person
1. Is the government "very bad" at running the military?
2. Is the government "very bad" at running Medicare/Medicaid?
3. Is the government "very bad" at building roads and highways?
4. Is the government "very bad" at running the fire department?
5. Was the government "very bad" when it solved the problems that caused the Great Depression?
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. Yes
Any more brain busters?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 134 by Rahvin, posted 12-09-2011 3:44 PM Rahvin has not replied

  
Artemis Entreri 
Suspended Member (Idle past 4256 days)
Posts: 1194
From: Northern Virginia
Joined: 07-08-2008


Message 152 of 208 (643744)
12-11-2011 8:39 AM
Reply to: Message 146 by Shield
12-10-2011 7:32 PM


Re: really?
and its the personal attacks and name calling, and emotional outburst from pussy as bitches like your self that make liberals look like the libtards they are.
i'll see you on the battlefield motherfucker.
its should be totally obvious that I was being sarcastic you piece shit.
keep talking shit. I'll walk over there pull up your skirt and rub your clitoris, i know what bitches like you need.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 146 by Shield, posted 12-10-2011 7:32 PM Shield has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 153 by Shield, posted 12-11-2011 3:18 PM Artemis Entreri has replied

  
Artemis Entreri 
Suspended Member (Idle past 4256 days)
Posts: 1194
From: Northern Virginia
Joined: 07-08-2008


(1)
Message 162 of 208 (643832)
12-12-2011 10:16 AM
Reply to: Message 139 by crashfrog
12-09-2011 4:58 PM


Re: hear from a conservatively inclined but not entirely lunatic person
Crashfrog writes:
If we were talking about your health, and you wanted to do one thing and your doctors - who are experts - wanted you to do another, isn't the "responsible" thing to follow the expert advice of your doctors?
I think the responsible thing to do would be to get a 2nd or 3rd opinion. If my doctor recommends I do something or take a medication that I disagree with, then I will get another opinion or even go and see a specialist. General practitioners are fine for most things, but I take care of myself, so I’ll be seeing someone else on many issues.
I'm puzzled by your notion that it was somehow "irresponsible" for many thousands of Americans to follow the advice of the experts who claimed to be acting on their behalf. You're turning the very notion of "responsibility" on its head.
While it seems you just like to blame others for the negative things that have happened in your life.
I doubt very much that you're pulling down the cool quarter-mil a year necessary to be in the 1%.
I refuse to support the 99%, I aint part of their Bullshit movement.
Sometimes bad things happen to good people, AE. I know that's a revolutionary thought to a conservative such as yourself, but its nonetheless true (and its exactly what you'll claim is happening every time something bad happens to you. Conservatives love personal responsibility unless they're the ones being asked to take it.)
I would take personal responsibility for the ass kicking you’d receive if we ever met face to face. I’d gladly do some time, and pay a fine to kick your punk ass. I just know that you would never show up, so keep talking your shit, and I'll keep talking mine. deal?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 139 by crashfrog, posted 12-09-2011 4:58 PM crashfrog has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 166 by crashfrog, posted 12-12-2011 11:10 AM Artemis Entreri has not replied
 Message 169 by Dr Adequate, posted 12-12-2011 12:21 PM Artemis Entreri has replied
 Message 170 by Theodoric, posted 12-12-2011 12:56 PM Artemis Entreri has replied
 Message 174 by Butterflytyrant, posted 12-12-2011 9:52 PM Artemis Entreri has not replied

  
Artemis Entreri 
Suspended Member (Idle past 4256 days)
Posts: 1194
From: Northern Virginia
Joined: 07-08-2008


Message 163 of 208 (643833)
12-12-2011 10:18 AM
Reply to: Message 153 by Shield
12-11-2011 3:18 PM


Re: really?
thanks for making mine. you are the one who started with the name calling.
what does rbp stand for? real bitchass pussy?
is your clit still sore?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 153 by Shield, posted 12-11-2011 3:18 PM Shield has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 164 by AdminModulous, posted 12-12-2011 10:26 AM Artemis Entreri has not replied
 Message 165 by Theodoric, posted 12-12-2011 10:46 AM Artemis Entreri has not replied

  
Artemis Entreri 
Suspended Member (Idle past 4256 days)
Posts: 1194
From: Northern Virginia
Joined: 07-08-2008


Message 176 of 208 (644875)
12-21-2011 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 169 by Dr Adequate
12-12-2011 12:21 PM


what a joke
nothing is ever our fault all the mistakes we make are someone else's fault, because they sold us beachfront property in Alaska and we bought it, because they said it was a good deal, and we listened to them. why? because they were the "experts" (they even told us themselves that they were the experts). All the bad stuff in the world is caused by someone else --- WE ARE THE 99%

This message is a reply to:
 Message 169 by Dr Adequate, posted 12-12-2011 12:21 PM Dr Adequate has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 179 by Dr Adequate, posted 12-21-2011 12:11 PM Artemis Entreri has not replied
 Message 180 by Straggler, posted 12-21-2011 1:15 PM Artemis Entreri has not replied
 Message 182 by crashfrog, posted 12-21-2011 9:57 PM Artemis Entreri has not replied

  
Artemis Entreri 
Suspended Member (Idle past 4256 days)
Posts: 1194
From: Northern Virginia
Joined: 07-08-2008


Message 177 of 208 (644876)
12-21-2011 11:04 AM
Reply to: Message 170 by Theodoric
12-12-2011 12:56 PM


Re: hear from a conservatively inclined but not entirely lunatic person
You know what would happen after you tried to kick my ass. I would have you arrested and thrown in jail for a while. You see that is how civilized people act. We allow the laws and the courts to handle petty thug wannabe's like you.
i knew you were a pussy.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 170 by Theodoric, posted 12-12-2011 12:56 PM Theodoric has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 181 by Theodoric, posted 12-21-2011 5:41 PM Artemis Entreri has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024