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caffeine
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Message 29 of 75 (647520)
01-10-2012 7:06 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by Trixie
01-10-2012 6:31 AM


Abhorrent, but not incitement
I don't think you could make a case for this being incitement. We only have a limited part of what he said, but from my understanding he is not telling people it is okay to rape anyone. I'd expect that he still considers rape a sin (although, in his twisted, medieval morality it probably ranks as a lesser sin than having an abortion).
Rather, he is putting across that view that it would be churlish for a woman to complain about being raped after having an abortion. After all, she's made it clear that it's okay to abuse her body by doing so herself, God's will be damned. The argument is in some way akin to 'it's her own fault for wearing a short skirt'. It's not an enouragement to rape, but a declaration that 'she brought it on herself'.
So, abhorrent, but not illegal.
Incidentally, incitement is no longer a crime a Britain, having been replaced with a new, statutory offence of 'encouraging or assisting an offence'.

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caffeine
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Message 33 of 75 (647535)
01-10-2012 8:17 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Trixie
01-10-2012 7:22 AM


Re: Abhorrent, but not incitement
The argument "it's her own fault for wearing a short skirt" is not the same as saying that wearing a short skirt gives a man "absolute licence to abuse her body without restrictions". That's the exact words that it is claimed the archbishop used. It's the phrase "absolute licence" that I see as the problem.
I agree it's not a good analogy, but I'm having difficulty coming up with one. The point is that this can't be taken as incitement. Even if the arch-bishop does mean that it's okay to rape women (which I doubt), this in itself isn't a crime (I'm talking British law, anyway, I can't speak for every country in the world).
"Raping women is okay" - the expression of an opinion, albeit a horrific one. Not illegal.
"Go and rape women" - exhortation to commit a crime. This is illegal.

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