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Topic: That boat don't float
Portillo Member (Idle past 135 days)
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Message 359 of 452 (643717)
12-10-2011 11:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by pandion 08-19-2009 12:34 AM
That boat can float. The dimensions of the ark indicate that it was more of a barge than a ship. It was about 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high. It had about 95,700 square feet on three decks, 1,400,000 cubic feet and a gross tonnage of 13,960. It was fully large enough to carry its cargo. Its carrying capacity equaled that of 522 standard railroad stockcars, which can carry 125,000 sheep. The ark was about the size of an oil tanker and was proper seagoing dimensions for an ocean voyage. Korean naval experts did a study on the ark and concluded that the ark could float. http://www.worldwideflood.com/ark/safety_aig/safety_aig.htm
And the conspiracy was strong, for the people increased continually - 2 Samuel 15:12
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Portillo Member (Idle past 135 days)
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Message 363 of 452 (643808)
12-12-2011 2:01 AM
Reply to: Message 362 by pandion 12-11-2011 6:05 PM
quote: It would sink.At least it would do better than the Babylonian ark, which was a cube.
And the conspiracy was strong, for the people increased continually - 2 Samuel 15:12
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Message 365 of 452 (643815)
12-12-2011 5:16 AM
Reply to: Message 364 by Pressie 12-12-2011 3:41 AM
Your smart enough to figure out that a barge bigger then a football field can withstand the forces of rolling seas and mighty tidal waves alot better than a cube.
And the conspiracy was strong, for the people increased continually - 2 Samuel 15:12
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Message 371 of 452 (645282)
12-24-2011 10:53 PM
Reply to: Message 362 by pandion 12-11-2011 6:05 PM
quote: What cargo? You don't specify what the cargo was. How many "kinds" were there. Given the millions of species of living things on earth today, it seems improbable that they could have evolved in such a short time from the few kinds that would have been aboard the ark.Ernst Mayr lists the following numbers for animals species:
Mammals - 3,500 Birds - 8,600 Reptiles and Amphibians - 5,500 Fishes - 18,000 Tunicates, etc - 1,700 Echinoderms - 4,700 Arthropods 815,000 Mollusks - 88,000 Worms, etc - 25,000 Coelenterates, etc - 10,000 Sponges - 5,000 Protozoans - 15,000
Total Animals - 1,000,000
And the conspiracy was strong, for the people increased continually - 2 Samuel 15:12
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quote: I find it best to focus on the idea that the ark somehow had to make a pit stop in Australia to specifically drop off the Kangaroos.So when humans evolved in Africa 200,000 years ago, how did the Aborigines get to Australia?
And the conspiracy was strong, for the people increased continually - 2 Samuel 15:12
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Message 383 of 452 (645666)
12-28-2011 9:28 PM
Reply to: Message 382 by jar 12-28-2011 9:01 PM
So why is it a thoughtcrime to believe that wallabies and kangaroos made it to Australia?
And the conspiracy was strong, for the people increased continually - 2 Samuel 15:12
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Message 388 of 452 (645773)
12-29-2011 9:04 PM
Reply to: Message 385 by Percy 12-29-2011 8:58 AM
Thanks.
And the conspiracy was strong, for the people increased continually - 2 Samuel 15:12
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Portillo Member (Idle past 135 days)
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Message 389 of 452 (647927)
01-12-2012 1:34 AM
Reply to: Message 367 by pandion 12-12-2011 12:56 PM
The length of the ark would mean that the hull would be twisted by the action of the waves. That would spring the hull beyond the abilities of any caulking to seal. There isn't any wood that is strong enough to resist twisting.
It says that the ark was made out of gopher wood. If you went to a lumber yard to buy some gopher wood, you probably wouldnt find it. So what was gopher wood? We dont know but many people in that time built things from the cedars of Lebanon. One thing we know about cedar and cypress trees is that once it swells up, it gets tight, doesnt leak and doesnt rot in water. So it was probably some type of cedar or cypress.
Explorer Thor Heyerdahl tried to find out whether it was possible for people to go from Europe or Africa by a primitive sailing vessel to North America. He used reeds to build a ship and tried to go across. He was never able to make it, until he read Genesis and noticed that they "pitched" Noahs Ark within and without. So he took tar from the sands of Egypt, covered his boat with it and was able to sail all the way across.
"Make thee an ark of gopher wood, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch ." - Genesis 6:14
Edited by Portillo, : No reason given.
And the conspiracy was strong, for the people increased continually - 2 Samuel 15:12
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Message 391 of 452 (647929)
01-12-2012 2:17 AM
Reply to: Message 390 by saab93f 01-12-2012 2:02 AM
Is that all you have to add to the discussion? Pathetic insults add nothing.
And the conspiracy was strong, for the people increased continually - 2 Samuel 15:12
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Message 393 of 452 (647945)
01-12-2012 7:29 AM
Reply to: Message 392 by saab93f 01-12-2012 2:39 AM
And for some reason you enjoy discussing the flood. Thats why your here.
And the conspiracy was strong, for the people increased continually - 2 Samuel 15:12
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Message 400 of 452 (648056)
01-13-2012 12:03 AM
Reply to: Message 394 by jar 01-12-2012 9:12 AM
Try to debate without using swear words.
And the conspiracy was strong, for the people increased continually - 2 Samuel 15:12
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Message 402 of 452 (648060)
01-13-2012 2:19 AM
Reply to: Message 401 by DC85 01-13-2012 12:32 AM
There are many sources stating that the Amish community offered forgiveness. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/...f-victims-for-forgiveness.html http://www.nationalreview.com/...child-killer/john-podhoretz http://www.cross-currents.com/...006/10/17/not-always-divine http://www.turkishweekly.net/...r-amish-school-massacre.html http://www.reuters.com/...amish-school-idUSN1229970820070913
And the conspiracy was strong, for the people increased continually - 2 Samuel 15:12
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