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xongsmith
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Message 51 of 409 (684659)
12-18-2012 11:30 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by Faith
12-18-2012 12:17 AM


Re: Grand Canyon visible effects flood scenario
Dear Faith,
My question is what do you really fear in losing the YEC position? You still get to believe in Jesus and all the good things he stands for. You still get to believe in all the really important things in your life.
What is the problem with OEC?
Sincerely,

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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Message 56 of 409 (684760)
12-18-2012 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by foreveryoung
12-18-2012 1:21 PM


FEY says:
Don't you think if Noah lived near the black sea and the whole area was submerged for over a year, that Noah would consider the whole world to be flooded?
Thank you.
Indeed, it might just be MOST probable.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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Message 178 of 409 (685350)
12-22-2012 12:46 AM
Reply to: Message 176 by Faith
12-22-2012 12:36 AM


Re: Grand Canyon visible effects flood scenario
Faith whines:
I would love to draw a diagram but I am not able to do so on my Paint program as I used to do, something to do with the digital mouse not working for me as well as the old rollerball mouse. Very frustrating.
How convenient for you....

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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Message 183 of 409 (685362)
12-22-2012 4:41 AM
Reply to: Message 179 by Faith
12-22-2012 1:25 AM


Re: Grand Canyon visible effects flood scenario
Faith exclaims:
Thanks for calling me a liar.
I go WTF? When did I call you that?
I love drawing diagrams and illustrations. I really wish I could.
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I think I'll do some hand drawings and maybe eventually I can figure out how to scan and post those.
Good, this would be wonderful.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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Message 392 of 409 (686351)
12-31-2012 1:56 PM
Reply to: Message 390 by Faith
12-31-2012 12:54 PM


Finding the real Faith
Faith says:
It looks different from my side where the evidence you think you have just doesn't do what you think it does.
I want to make this as gentle as I can. You seem like a very nice person, you don't use vulgar language, you are not driven away in fulminating anger. You have a spirit of fighting. BUT:
Sometimes I wonder why you are here. The premise at the opening doorway into this place has put you in a bad spot. You have none of the weapons that you are allowed to carry in the debates here. This gets back to the basic agreement of joining this forum - you have to present scientific evidence to support your argument. It's a stacked deck against you. Your unscientific weapons are no good here. They are useless. You are entering an environment that runs counter to your worldview, where you are in over your head.
There basically are two courses of action you could take here, well maybe three, but the 3rd is not what I would want to see. The 1st might be to consign your contributions only to a very peripheral region of the discussions (such as a description of how you became a YEC) and that would be to just posit that God put everything the way it appears and magically created what we see (such as your strange construction of the origin of the Grand Canyon). The 2nd might be to retain your fervent and completely okay belief in the Christ, etc., and join the OEC folk who have no problem with scientific evidence on their level. The 3rd would be to leave. Which would be sad.
There is a 4th option as well - LEARN SCIENCE, but you just may not be able to do that. Some people cannot understand complex differential equations or some of the weird tensor math used in cosmology - no matter how hard they try to learn it - and they quietly close that door. So no big deal here, but take it to heart.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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