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Message 134 of 409 (685108)
12-20-2012 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 133 by ringo
12-20-2012 1:28 PM


Re: Flood Evidence is everywhere
You're seeing leaves in every yard and assuming that they all came from one big tree.
That is perhaps the best analogy I have ever seen with regard to the Flood debate.

The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.
- Francis Bacon
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus
"...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of
variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the
outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." Barash, David 1995.

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Message 136 of 409 (685116)
12-20-2012 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by Faith
12-20-2012 3:19 PM


Re: Flood Evidence is everywhere
incredible depth of strata found scattered over the entire world, of the sort that had to be laid down by water, just chock full of dead things
It's this level of oversimplification that leads you to be so absolutely wrong every time you post.

The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.
- Francis Bacon
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus
"...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of
variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the
outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." Barash, David 1995.

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Message 324 of 409 (685772)
12-26-2012 6:53 PM
Reply to: Message 322 by foreveryoung
12-26-2012 6:33 PM


Re: Next steps.
I'm all for taking steps to lessen the hardship that global warming will bring, but drastically reducing carbon dioxide emissions only serves to bring hardship itself to the world. Carbon dioxide is directly linked with energy production, and if you limit carbon dioxide emissions, you necessarily limit energy production. When you limit energy production in a world with increasing population, all you do is raise the cost of living and ultimately lower the standard living for people who can least afford to do so.
Fortunately, there are alternatives to simply burning fossil fuels.
Plenty of people will go on and on about solar and wind and hydro...they have their place, but they cannot provide the power production capacity and reliability needed to form the backbone for generation going forward.
Nuclear power is by far the safest method of power generation (yes, nuclear power is statistically safer per megawatt generated than wind, solar, hydro, or any other method of generating power), and happens to have an ample, easy source of fuel. Most of the "problems" of nuclear power are either outdated designs (see Fukushima) or are simply self-imposed by fearmongers (fuel rod reprocessing).
A modern, standardized reactor design could be implemented en mass to replace coal, oil, and gas plants with more safety and greater scalability. A breeder reactor chain could virtually eliminate nuclear waste and squeeze even more power out of the fuel. We could even use the Thorium cycle instead of Uranium and have an extremely plentiful fuel source with a relatively miniscule amount of waste material.
Combined with increased sales in electric cars, we can do an awful lot towards ridding ourselves of dependance on fossil fuels almost in their entirety.
For developing nations...there are designs for cargo-container sized nuclear power plants. These can be used to provide power generation for small areas (and could even decentralize the power grid for larger nations like the US, where we are very vulnerable to mass power outages - I'm sure most of us remember the East Coast blackout a few years back) as a nation develops. The fuel is kept sealed, and the container is easily shipped back to the manufacturer for refueling after a decade or so of operation.
It's entirely possible to achieve the goal of massively reducing CO2 production within a decade. Ironically, the very Earth-conscious idiots who want that reduction are almost exclusively the ones who vehemently resist the real solution, because they've bought into anti-nuclear hysteria and outright lies.
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The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.
- Francis Bacon
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus
"...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of
variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the
outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." Barash, David 1995.

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