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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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Return to the Fairness Doctrine The Fairness Doctrine was needed when the public was limited to a few outlets as a source for news. With cable, satellite, internet this is no longer the case. There is no longer a justification for this doctrine.
Break up the News stations Not the news stations so much as the news conglomerates like News Corp, Disney, Time Warner, etc. that possess large holdings in TV, print, radio and internet combined. News Corp is, of course, the poster child for slanted political influence on a world wide basis. We are not going to have objective news since a slant is always present in every news item. And that slant is mostly a reflection of the ownership. Having more owners of various outlets means more varying views.
... it has to report News factually , without snide remarks and heaps of opinion ... Regulate the KIND of language being used ... Now we run into a problem. In the Gun Control threads, have you noticed how zealous the 2nd Amendment advocates are? You ain't seen zealous till you try limiting political speech. Every news outlet of every political stripe will do a tap dance on your head. Besides the big news organizations taking you to court you will have every mom & pop radio station and internet site in the country filing suit for 1st Amendment infringement. Worse yet, given its history, the biggest gun to shoot down any hint of this kind of limit to political speech is SCOTUS itself. These last two will not happen.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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Mass printing and distribution: out. Two week waiting period before publishing. Not more than three stories per reporter per month. Point received ... and rejected. Exercising political speech is not the same as killing someone. But, you knew that.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Joseph Goebbels in the house? Talk about inflammatory propaganda. You sure are good at it. You seem to think that propaganda is all "the big lie," deliberate deceit and distortion. That was certainly the use of the NAZI's. If you ever listened to a Voice of America broadcast then you heard US government "propaganda." Not deliberate deceit or miss-direction, but "our side of the story." Nothing wrong with that. In this country do you really think the government watchers will not spot and loudly proclaim any evil falsehoods spread by this domestic information flow? We have you, dronester, and others to point out such attempts at deception. And, thank you, by the way. Despite your own use of propaganda I'll give the benefit of the doubt to the government until I see otherwise.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
In this country do you really think the government watchers will not spot and loudly proclaim any evil falsehoods spread by this domestic information flow?
Cough, (WMD in Iraq) Exactly my point. I love it when someone makes my point so clearly for me while thinking they are doing the opposite.
I think we should just trust our president in every decision that he makes and we should just support that. Did I say that? I think your Big Lie propaganda is showing.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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It is your attempt to squeeze it into being the topic here that I find forced. And I fell into the thread creep. Thanks for bringing me out. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
On the other hand, when it comes to the NEWS companies that own the major sources of news, we used to have over 50.. we are now down to 6. So many of the sources are owned by the same people. This was point 2 in your message. By breaking up these conglomerates we broaden the ownership thus taking in more views on the stories of the day. It keeps the Murdochs of the world from having an undue share of political influence. There are still very many more and varied outlets in today's society than in the 50's-70's. A Fairness Doctrine is not necessary. IMHO, limiting the corporate accumulation of outlets will do far more than the doctrine.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Careless political speech, falsely labeled as factual news, can do societal damage that can snowball up to and beyond killing. Do you have any examples?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
I'm not sure we can blame the media for the lack of intellect, critical thinking skills and just plain common sense that some people exhibit. It certainly can exacerbate the delusions of an already sick mind but then so can a pretty girl to a stalker.
The comparison of 1st Amendment political speech to 2nd Amendment killing is more than a stretch in this case. Kind of reminds me of the "Twinkie Defense." Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Then we blame the pretty girl for setting off the stalker?
I recognize the power of the media. After all advertizing works. But the intent of advertizing is to increase sales not increase shoplifting. In this case the intent of the media was to convince a political opinion, not convince someone to go kill. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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Who said anything about killing people? I did. It was me. Hyperbole, maybe, but it was all me. And it felt so good.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
the intention of the conman is to make himself rich, he has no particular interest in making his victim poor. Quibble. The intention of the con man is to commit fraud which is to knowingly take value from his victim thus making him poorer. So, yes, the con man has a very personal interest in making his victim poorer.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Dr. A,
As I said, quibble. We will disagree. So be it.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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But the simple fact is that at least some of the frenzy on that college campus was inspired by news media sensationalism, and people WERE KILLED. Bullshit. I was at Iowa protesting, overturning cars, burning flags just like thousands of others from sea to shining sea. It was not the media. It was the fucking war. Pull your head out of your ass.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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veterans of the Vietnam War are still TO THIS DAY being used. I was one of the baby killers. I was the embodiment of evil walking through LAX in uniform. I saw the body parts, the blood, the drugs, the vacant stares, the walking dead. I went to too many funerals; carried too many coffins, all before I was 21. Then I heard the lies on body counts, the cove up of atrocities, the "We are winning" montra from Westmoreland. Then there was Tet ... then there was Cambodia. When Nixon expanded the war it was too much. He ripped the heart out of the nation. There was nothing left to do but take to the streets. This wasn't some media hyped charade of liberal politics. It was disgust. That my country, my government, my president could so deceive and bleed the people for so long. I still have my purple ribbon from Vietnam Vets Against the War. I earned the right to bitch. After all these decades it still hurts. I cry.
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