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dronestar
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Message 11 of 69 (687855)
01-17-2013 9:15 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by RAZD
01-16-2013 10:14 PM


Is there a Joseph Goebbels in the house?
RAZD writes:
Yeah, it would put Faux Noise out of business.
Hi Razd,
I think Herr Obama and congress prefer that Faux News not only stay in business, but have MORE competition . . .
May, 2012
quote:
NDAA 2013: Congress approves domestic deceptive propaganda
The amendment updates the antiquated Smith-Mundt Act of 1948 and Foreign Relations Authorization Act of 1987, essentially clarifying that the US State Department and the Broadcasting Board of Governors may “prepare, disseminate and use public diplomacy information abroad,” but while also striking down a long-lasting ban on the domestic dissemination in America. For the last several decades, the federal government has been authorized to use such tactics overseas to influence foreign support of America’s wars abroad, but has been barred from such strategies within the US. If next year’s NDAA clears the US Senate and is signed by President Obama with the Thornberry-Smith provision intact, then restrictions on propaganda being force-fed to Americans would be rolled back entirety.
Error 404 RT
Jan/2013
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President Obama Signed the National Defense Authorization Act
The National Defense Authorization Act greatly expands the power and scope of the federal government to fight the War on Terror, including codifying into law the indefinite detention of terrorism suspects without trial. Under the new law the US military has the power to carry out domestic anti-terrorism operations on US soil.
President Obama Signed the National Defense Authorization Act - Now What?
NDAA Signed Into Law By Obama Despite Guantanamo Veto Threat, Indefinite Detention Provisions | HuffPost Latest News

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Message 13 of 69 (687862)
01-17-2013 10:23 AM
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01-17-2013 9:40 AM


Re: Is there a Joseph Goebbels in the house?
marc9000 writes:
Do not 'report' anything that isn't confirmed by at least three sources. Leave the political commentary to the politicians.
RAZD writes:
Great idea.
Yeah, it would put Faux Noise out of business.
Drone writes:
I think Herr Obama and congress prefer that Faux News not only stay in business, but have MORE competition
NN writes:
I don't want the government controlling the press because I want stories like this to be published. I have no idea what your point is.
quote:
If next year’s NDAA clears the US Senate and is signed by President Obama with the Thornberry-Smith provision intact, then restrictions on propaganda being force-fed to Americans would be rolled back entirety.
I believe marc9000's OP is suggesting the corporate news' sensationalism helps inspire today's crazy shootings. marc9000 seems to suggest that the government should create rules (laws?) so that the media downplays the sensationalism.
My post was to show the irony of that suggestion because the President and congress has just revised an old law so that even MORE sensationalized propaganda (support for more needless wars?) be given to the american people.
I've long been a critique of the corporate media. Americans are known the world over for their actions against their own best interests. The government can accomplish this through violence or very effective propaganda. Obama and Congress has just made the effects of propaganda on the american people even more successful.
Do you agree with my opinion?

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Message 15 of 69 (687871)
01-17-2013 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by AZPaul3
01-17-2013 11:03 AM


Re: Is there a Joseph Goebbels in the house?
AZPaul3 writes:
In this country do you really think the government watchers will not spot and loudly proclaim any evil falsehoods spread by this domestic information flow?
Cough, (WMD in Iraq)
AZPaul3 writes:
Despite your own use of propaganda I'll give the benefit of the doubt to the government until I see otherwise.
You're in good company there Skippy . . .
quote:
I think we should just trust our president in every decision that he makes and we should just support that.
BRITNEY SPEARS, CNN interview, Sep. 4, 2003

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Message 18 of 69 (687874)
01-17-2013 11:39 AM
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01-17-2013 11:20 AM


Re: Is there a Joseph Goebbels in the house?
AZP writes:
I love it when someone makes my point so clearly for me while thinking they are doing the opposite.
I guess it helps when your point is contradictory.
One:
America's corporate media was nearly all supporting the WMD lies in Iraq. There were very few media protesters ("government watchers") like the Dixie Chicks and Phil Donahue. And if you recall, they were hammered hard. The criminal invasion of Iraq was committed.
Now, the government can indoctrinate the masses even more successfully through the The National Defense Authorization Act. Goebbels would be proud.
Are you not in agreement?
Two:
It would seem you believe "Despite your own use of propaganda I'll give the benefit of the doubt to the government until I see otherwise" is completely OPPOSITE to "I think we should just trust our president in every decision that he makes and we should just support that."
Edited by dronester, : wrongly attributed quote

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Message 20 of 69 (687876)
01-17-2013 11:50 AM
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01-17-2013 11:37 AM


Re: Is there a Joseph Goebbels in the house?
NN writes:
It's not because there is not a point to make about the NDAA.
Ok, good.
NN writes:
It is your attempt to squeeze it into being the topic here that I find forced.
Ok, but I wish you would have stated this more clearly in your first post.

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Message 23 of 69 (687882)
01-17-2013 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by NoNukes
01-17-2013 12:01 PM


Re: Is there a Joseph Goebbels in the house?
NN AZPaul3 writes:
Please be a little more careful with your reporting. I did not say this.
You are correct, I attributed it to the wrong person. My humble apologies. I'll fix/edit the above post.
NN writes:
At some point, you are actually going to want to accuse someone of fascism.
Fascism, or sometimes referred to as corporatism, is the conspired actions of government and corporations serving their needs over the best interests of the people. E.g., When the government oks the very profitable act of coporation's fracking over the health welfare of the people, I would call that ONE example of corporatism. Another would be back-door deals with health-insurance companies over the public's welfare.
. . . I think I am also being sucked into topic-creep.

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