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onifre Member (Idle past 2982 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
Bitch I got 6 foot tall blackberries growing in my backyard! Young money... (Lil Wayne voice) - Oni
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6 foot tall blackberries? That has to be some kind of world record. imagine the blackberry pie that could be made with 6 foot tall blackberries. I can only dream about the size of the birds that come in your backyard to eat these gigantic fruits. No, no, no. I think you misunderstood. Granted, these are like 10 feet tall.
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I don't get it... but I don't listen to cRap.
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 832 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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I think YOU misunderstood. Don't you even know how big your blackberries are? 6 feet tall, remember? Go make a pie! The worlds largest pie. I'll loan you my pet T-Rex to help. He's a pre-fludd rex so he is friendly, albeit a bit cranky because he's kinda old (but far younger than the evolutionist's T-Rex).
Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given."Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
Sharing a continent is not necessarily hanging out together. You seemed to have missed the meat of my post:
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Tangle Member Posts: 9516 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
It's OK kids, he just wants your lettuce sandwiches.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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Others have covered various aspects of this question quite well. Here, I'd like to summarize the dating problem:
If one is to argue a young earth, with dinosaurs and man cavorting about together from ca. 6,000 years ago until the flood, there are some things which must be established. These include: --All of the methods science uses to date the past are incorrect. What the evidence shows: --There are no human fossils, bones, or artifacts found in association with dinosaurs. Period. From all of this, creationists are clearly not doing science, and in fact, have no business even discussing science. They simply aren't qualified.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
--Human and dinosaur fossils (or, more accurately, bones) are found in the same strata. This is not at all necessary according to the Flood view which has all the strata having been laid down at the same time so that all the fossils in all the strata represent creatures that were all living at the same time.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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This is not at all necessary according to the Flood view which has all the strata having been laid down at the same time so that all the fossils in all the strata represent creatures that were all living at the same time. The flood view is wrong, start to finish. It is based on old tribal myths, not evidence. It is contradicted by the evidence. This is shown by various forms of dating as well as stratigraphy. The layers you are claiming are all contemporaneous are clearly spread out over millions of years based on the evolution and extinction of hundreds or thousands of genera and species, as well as the depositional history which can be read from the layers. You can dispute this all you want, but that doesn't make it so. (See signature.)Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: This is not at all necessary according to the Flood view which has all the strata having been laid down at the same time so that all the fossils in all the strata represent creatures that were all living at the same time. Except Faith, as you well know, neither you nor anyone else has ever explained how the Biblical Flood could lay down all the different strata at the same time or sort all the fossils in the order found. The Biblical Floods (since the Bible has at least two mutually exclusive accounts) simply never happened and anyone claiming they did is simply wrong.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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--Human and dinosaur fossils (or, more accurately, bones) are found in the same strata.
This is not at all necessary according to the Flood view which has all the strata having been laid down at the same time so that all the fossils in all the strata represent creatures that were all living at the same time. But that is just a post-hoc rationalization of the pre-conceived Flood scenario. That is, you don't have any idea what the Flood conditions would have done, you just already believe in the Flood, then you see that the strata looks a particular way, so then you decide that the Flood must have done it that way. That is not intellectually honest, its just wishful thinking. Anyways, the fossils in the strata are organized so that more primitive animals are on the bottom and more advanced ones are on top. Too, there's not a single advanced organism in the bottom strata nor any primitive ones in the top. Like this:
You never find any of the holocene animals in the cambrian layer, nor any of the jurassic animals in the holocene layer. It is impossible for The Flood to have filtered out and organized all the animals into neat layers like that without a single exception anywhere in the world. Not one single arrowhead made its way down with a trilobyte into the lower layers. Not a single dinosaur escaped the layers that ended up fossilizing everything. There's no way for that to happen with a Flood without some sort of magic directly from God. But that's not what Flood proponents argue, they act as if it was all due to naturalistic mechanisms. Unfortunately, if you do invoke God, then you have to admit that he is playing a trick on us in making it look like it happened over a long period of time.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 765 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined:
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And adding to what CS just said, Faith: there is not ONE EXAMPLE ANYWHERE of an Eryops or Dimetrodon being found in the same stratum as a tyrannosaur or a stegosaur. Not one.
"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
I suspect that Faith has given up -- on us.
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3998 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
The feline is envious of your certainty, Vatican. You've got such a lovely timetable there to believe in. A pyramid with the wolves, rabbits and simians on top. Accelerating towards the apex. You believe to know who went with and who went without who and how many of those going with and without were there and for how long they all kept going with and without. The Cheshire knows nothing of the sort. All he knows is that most are food to be eaten and fossils is but food beyond reach of any. What fraction of it is ever beyond reach of any? And for how long? And who knows what is the real rate of food decay and disintegration? And what is the longest distance beyond which there is no trace of any memory at all? What is the exact rate of forgetting, Vatican? - wonders the moggy.
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