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Topic: Kansas Insitution to sue about teaching science in science room.
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onifre
Member (Idle past 2980 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: 02-20-2008
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Message 28 of 68 (707642)
09-29-2013 9:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 21 by Faith
09-29-2013 2:09 PM
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It's long past time the Christians completely opted out of the system, kept their children out of the public schools, either home schooled them or sent them to private schools, en masse. What happens when it's time to get into university or compete for jobs? You would be setting them up for absolute failure. Seems like a bad approach.
He made an avowed atheist of me. Thirty some odd years later God reached down and made a believer of me totally unexpectedly.
Seems like you're easily persuaded by authority figures. - Oni
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onifre
Member (Idle past 2980 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: 02-20-2008
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Message 43 of 68 (707694)
09-30-2013 12:51 PM
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Reply to: Message 29 by Jon
09-29-2013 9:47 PM
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They have their own universities. That many? Universities where they don't teach evolution or proper biology? Or proper geology? I know of one maybe two, but not that many.
They have their own jobs. What jobs?
No need to compete. That's impossible. - Oni
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onifre
Member (Idle past 2980 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: 02-20-2008
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Message 44 of 68 (707696)
09-30-2013 12:59 PM
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Reply to: Message 41 by jar
09-30-2013 11:46 AM
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It's a form of child abuse
Let them condemn their children to being uneducated, unemployable, illiterate; let the kids go with Faith Healing if that is what the parents decide is best What you're saying is we should do nothing while those parents commit child abuse. That's not the right thing to do at all. If parents are unfit to be parents then the state removes the child from those conditions. This would be one of those conditions. Condemning an innocent child to being uneducated, unemployable, illiterate and go without medical attention is not something we should allow to happen. Thankfully that is not the case. - Oni
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onifre
Member (Idle past 2980 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: 02-20-2008
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Message 48 of 68 (707702)
09-30-2013 1:18 PM
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Reply to: Message 45 by jar
09-30-2013 1:04 PM
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Re: It's a form of child abuse
Yes, you may see it as child abuse but that is pretty much irrelevant. It has nothing to do with how I see it. It is child abuse, hence the fact that the state would never allow that to happen. Even home schooling is monitored and the parent must be qualified to teach at home and must follow an approved curriculum. - Oni
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onifre
Member (Idle past 2980 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: 02-20-2008
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Message 56 of 68 (707720)
09-30-2013 4:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 50 by jar
09-30-2013 1:28 PM
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Re: It's a form of child abuse
I googled it, because when I was going to homeschool my kids a few years back and we DID have to go through a few qualifying issues and were going to be required to submit test scores, give specific courses and if it was going to go into the high school years there would be credit requirements. Apparently it's a state by state issue. I was shocked to find some states require nothing at all from the parent and very little course requirements. But it's not "nonsense" as you said. There are laws, but not all the same for every state. As usual, New York has the toughest laws for homeschooling. - Oni Edited by onifre, : No reason given.
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onifre
Member (Idle past 2980 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: 02-20-2008
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Message 57 of 68 (707721)
09-30-2013 4:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 55 by Jon
09-30-2013 4:35 PM
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Yes. They have their own Universities. How many?
Ever heard of the Government? Which government? - Oni
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onifre
Member (Idle past 2980 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: 02-20-2008
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Message 58 of 68 (707722)
09-30-2013 4:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 54 by NoNukes
09-30-2013 4:18 PM
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Re: It's a form of child abuse
Parents are always free to take their kids out of public schools and to put them in homeschools and private schools. In some cases they can even get vouchers to pay for some of the costs with public money. I don't mind home schooling. I throught as jar put it that there were no laws at all. It sparked me to google it and as you can read in the post I wrote to him, the laws for home schooling are state by state. - Oni
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onifre
Member (Idle past 2980 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: 02-20-2008
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Message 62 of 68 (707759)
09-30-2013 10:56 PM
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Reply to: Message 59 by jar
09-30-2013 4:57 PM
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Re: It's a form of child abuse
You probably wanted NY State accreditation. It was actually in Florida, which has pretty good laws for home schooling. I was just pointing out that NY had the toughest laws. But perhaps the kids mom was looking for accreditation. I'm not sure. She was handling the details. - Oni
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onifre
Member (Idle past 2980 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: 02-20-2008
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Message 63 of 68 (707760)
09-30-2013 10:59 PM
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Reply to: Message 61 by NoNukes
09-30-2013 8:59 PM
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The Christian universities are predominantly liberal arts schools. That makes sense.
And you can avoid taking geology or biology courses at most any college. I did not take that stuff in college. Sure, I just meant how would they compete in jobs where those fields were a prerequisite. - Oni
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