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Author Topic:   Kansas Insitution to sue about teaching science in science room.
Dr Adequate
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Message 10 of 68 (707575)
09-28-2013 3:27 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by jar
09-28-2013 8:44 AM


Re: We need to pity them.
We should give them an Inclusion Award that says something like "You tried really hard this time."
Having read their complaint, I'm not convinced they did.
My prediction: a judge is going to use the word "conclusory" a lot.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 19 of 68 (707608)
09-29-2013 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by NoNukes
09-29-2013 9:40 AM


Re: Don't laugh at them
Sorry, I cannot comply. I know that some well paid lawyer wrote that complaint.
I understand that the lawyers did not have much to work with, but surely something other than simply typing a 'Chick tract' into legal form was called for here.
No, not really. Can you, for example, find in it any references to any relevant case law? This well-paid lawyer refers to exactly one case, McGowan v. Maryland, in the whole darn thing, and it is possible that he didn't bother to read it. You may look yourself at the link and decide its relevance.
So what was the "highly-paid lawyer" being paid for, if not his knowledge of the law? Well apparently to repeat some standard dumb creationist whining about how science is a religion and so teaching it violates the First Amendment, waaaah! You don't need to be a lawyer to do that, in fact it's positively a handicap.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 37 of 68 (707675)
09-30-2013 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by jar
09-30-2013 8:48 AM


re: YAOJR...
The complaint is basically that the government is forcing the schools to teach children that they should doubt their parents, ignore what they are taught and challenge truth.
Well, that depends on the parents, doesn't it?
For example:
Angry Parent: [Teacher]! I heard you told my daughter that we’re homo sapiens!
Teacher: Yes, of course
Angry Parent: I take offense to that!
Teacher Why?
Angry Parent: Most people in the world identify as hetero sapiens, thank you very much. We don’t like being lumped together with f***!
Teacher: [Parent's name], it’s simply the scientific name for the human species.
Angry Parent: NO! Homo means f***! I can’t believe you’re teaching these students this s***!
However, there is no legal and certainly no constitutional bar to the government making students better-informed than their parents.

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