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Author Topic:   Faith and Well-Being
ringo
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Message 25 of 60 (740194)
11-02-2014 2:43 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Phat
11-01-2014 3:55 PM


Re: Knowable versus Unknowable
Phat writes:
Does Jesus being alive in communion with the hearts of willing humanity make sense?
The evidence is against it.

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ringo
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Message 38 of 60 (740248)
11-03-2014 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by Phat
11-03-2014 2:05 AM


Re: Knowable versus Unknowable
Phat writes:
The whole idea of faith and belief excludes evidence as an option.
Bullshit. Faith and belief allows you to form an opinion on subjects for which there is no evidence. It does NOT give you an excuse to ignore evidence that does exist.
As I have pointed out to you many times, people who claim to be "in communion" with Jesus often ignore His teachings - i.e. the evidence suggests that there is no special communication coming to them. You can not just brush off that evidence. What you should be doing is asking yourself why the message isn't getting through instead of making excuses for why you ignore it.

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ringo
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Message 40 of 60 (740256)
11-03-2014 11:22 AM
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11-03-2014 11:17 AM


Re: Knowable versus Unknowable
Phat writes:
Unless you want me to send you a fruitcake for Christmas...I shall do so...no strings attached.
Or you could give the money to that homeless guy instead of stepping over him.

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ringo
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Message 43 of 60 (740366)
11-04-2014 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by Phat
11-03-2014 10:36 AM


Re: Knowable versus Unknowable
Phat writes:
Its one thing to question and another to doubt.
I don't think there's much of a distinction. What's the point of questioning if you don't have doubts about the answer?
Q: Which is better? Chocolate or strawberry?
A: Chocolate.
Q: Okay.
Unfortunately, many Christians have been taught that doubt is "a bad thing" to be avoided. Instead, you should think of it as a safety mechanism.

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ringo
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Message 47 of 60 (740461)
11-05-2014 11:31 AM
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11-04-2014 5:12 PM


Re: chocolate vs strawberry
RAZD writes:
But you can question further: what about chocolate covered strawberries?
Chocolate-covered strawberries come after plain strawberries but before cashews.

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ringo
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Message 55 of 60 (740608)
11-06-2014 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by Phat
11-05-2014 3:49 PM


Re: Knowable versus Unknowable
I'm not going to watch a video either to try to discern your point.

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ringo
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Message 56 of 60 (740612)
11-06-2014 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by RAZD
11-06-2014 9:39 AM


Re: chocolate vs strawberry
RAZD writes:
Are we talking chocolate dipped strawberries or fully coated?
The higher the chocolate-to strawberry ratio the better (though there may be a practical upper limit).
Are the cashews dipped in chocolate or sprinkled on top of the chocolate coated strawberries?
I don't like cashews so they're pretty close to the bottom of the list. Chocolate is necessary to my spiritual well-being and strawberries are an enhancement if not an actual necessity. Cashews are neither. However, a complete absence of cashews would not necessarily make the world a better place since my spiritual well-bing is also linked to the well-being of other people, who may like cashews.
And where does vanilla ice cream fit in all of this ...
I considered saying vanilla instead of cashews. It's above cashews but below strawberries.

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