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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Oh you betcha it's lawlessness and iniquity according to the whole Biblical context. Marriage is specifically defined as between a man and a woman, and given by God in Eden, quoted by Jesus too; and homosexuality is clearly denounced as sin.
And outside the Bible these same principles have been recognized as well by all cultures back forever, defining homosexuality as an aberration or unnatural. Interestingly I saw a report earlier today on a court decision that made this point about how gay marriage is a contradiction to the view historically held by every culture, on which basis they allowed the anti-gay marriage views of the people to stand in four states, at least for now. If I run across that information again I'll put up a link. There is no way to make gay marriage anything but an invention of a lawless mentality. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Only insofar as it applies to homosexuality, evo, creo and ID, which is not very much.
I thought we were talking about the One/New World Order. Faith writes:
The world has always been headed for disaster. We've passed through most of them, scathed but still alive. Some day there may be a disaster that we don't survive. That one, according to you, will be caused by your petty, sadistic "God". However, the idea that marriage applies to homosexuals is certainly one of the thousands of signs that the world is upside down and headed for disaster. And "our" world has always been "upside down" to people on the other side. It's relative.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
2 Peter 3:3-4:
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
quote:Good one. No doubt there were scoffers on day one and on year one and on decade one. There were still scoffers after a century and after a millennium. No surprises that there are still scoffers after two millennia. So how do tell the difference between two millennia and ten millennia?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Well, technically speaking the Last Days began with the coming of the Messiah, so they've been with us for two millennia, but we'd expect that the same trends would increase as we get closer to the last of the last days.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
For truth in advertising, you should call them the Last Eons.
Well, technically speaking the Last Days began with the coming of the Messiah, so they've been with us for two millennia....
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Tangle Member Posts: 9516 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Faith writes: Well, technically speaking the Last Days began with the coming of the Messiah, so they've been with us for two millennia, but we'd expect that the same trends would increase as we get closer to the last of the last days. Well it was clear that everyone concerned expected the second coming pretty much immediately after his death which is what the bible actually says. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. - Matthew 24:34 It's the biggest failed prophecy of the entire bible and proves its falsehood. That aside, I've told you that sin is declining and has been for centuries - that's the actual trend.Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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frako Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Well, technically speaking the Last Days began with the coming of the Messiah, so they've been with us for two millennia, but we'd expect that the same trends would increase as we get closer to the last of the last days. Given that he has been coming soon for the past 2000 years isnt it time that you face reality that he is not coming. Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The word "generation" has different meanings depending on context. Since it couldn't refer to the generation of the disciples it is often understood to refer to the generation of those who will be alive during the time of the appearance of the signs and wonders described. There is also no other passage that implies the generation of the disciples would see all these things. But the word can also be taken to refer to race, meaning that the Jewish people would not pass away until it was all fulfilled. Consider the passage "Noah was perfect in his generations." Clearly the word has more than one meaning in the Biblical context.
What can I say about your notion that there is LESS sin in the world now. You really believe that? I guess that just makes you a good representative of today's mindset which radically opposes the Biblical mindset. Amazing polarization of viewpoints these days.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Oh Faith, again you simply live in a world of your own with definitions of your own.
If something is legal it cannot by definition be lawlessness. And if you had ever read the Bible you would know that marriage was a secular social contract, period. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
But God has allowed Christians to be persecuted throughout the millennia, there is nothing new there, it's just new in America. First the pagan Romans threw us to the lions and later the Roman Church slaughtered us by the millions. Nothing new under the sun. That's true. Your God really seems to hate you guys.
view historically held by every culture Like slavery? Edited by Larni, : No reason given.The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer. -Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
How nave of you. If you legalize inherently evil actions or criminalize inherently good actions you are committing lawlessness. I'm sure you would agree that legalizing slavery would be an example of a bad law.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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It might be a bad law but it cannot be lawlessness if it is legal, except maybe in the Christian Cult of Ignorance New Speak.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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frako Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined:
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I'm sure you would agree that legalizing slavery would be an example of a bad law. Not according to the bible there is no paragraph saying slavery is bad. Hell there are even instructions on how to sell your daughter, how to beat your slaves .... as per the previous post your saying because i mentioned that it has been a long time since he said he would come and that probably means he is not coming, actually translates to he is coming real soon. Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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