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Tangle
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Message 122 of 141 (745943)
12-30-2014 2:52 AM
Reply to: Message 121 by Phat
12-30-2014 12:47 AM


Re: Where Some Of Us Stand
Phat writes:
Dan Barker sounds like an interesting chap. You do also. I cannot honestly say that I hate you or that I hate Dan. I can admit to having a strong aversion to your belief. Perhaps, in all honesty, I do not fully empathize with your thought process due to lack of the experience of living in your skin for awhile.
"I cannot honestly say that I hate you" What does that mean Phat? To me that sounds like you feel that you should hate atheists but you almost don't or your loathing of us doesn't quite hit the hate level.
You've said some casually offensive and disgraceful things in the past about atheists without recognising their offensiveness - the way white people in the 50s were openly racist because it was the norm. Is this just same?
What is preached about atheism in your church? Are we people to be feared and avoided? Are we devils in human form? What are you told about us?

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Tangle
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Message 124 of 141 (745945)
12-30-2014 3:20 AM
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12-30-2014 3:16 AM


Re: Where Some Of Us Stand
Ok, but you've only answered part of my post what about the rest?

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Tangle
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Message 126 of 141 (745947)
12-30-2014 3:40 AM
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12-30-2014 3:24 AM


Re: Where Some Of Us Stand
Thanks for that but I still think you're evading a little.
It's the instinctive reactions which give away real feelings before the brain can qualify or nullify them. I get the feeling from you and other fundamental believers - oddly and probably wrongly, not from Faith - that you think there's something fundamentally wrong with us atheists and you'd cross the road - or worse - to avoid us. Hence your ungarded 'hate' comment.
Btw - the hate the sin love the sinner stuff that is regularly spouted by out-and-out bigots is utter bullshit. The sin and the sinner are one and the same, that's why we punish people for the crimes they commit. There is no distinction between the gun and the bullit.
Btw #2 being an atheist is not a sin.
Btw #3 there is no such thing as sin. Obviously

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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