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Author Topic:   What is a 'true Christian'?
Theodoric
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Message 66 of 141 (726660)
05-10-2014 8:10 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by AZPaul3
05-10-2014 7:52 PM


Re: Scripture Thumping
numerous books of scripture wandering around from church to church.
Of multitudes of translations and interpretations. Also, there were a lot of christian books that never made it into any canon that were treated as scripture for hundreds of years. Some of these non canon books have been treated as scripture for almost 2000 years by some churches.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 70 of 141 (726666)
05-10-2014 9:29 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by AZPaul3
05-10-2014 8:55 PM


Re: Scripture Thumping
Genesis was around then, pretty much as it is today.
Was it? What were the versions existing at that time?
Is a belief in the literal stories of genesis a requirement to be a "true christians"TM then as well as today?
Biblical literalism and inerrancy are fairly recent phenomenon. As a matter of fact current inerrancy beliefs date from the 1970's. Historical the vast majority of christians have accepted a lot of the bible as allegory.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 133 of 141 (745960)
12-30-2014 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 121 by Phat
12-30-2014 12:47 AM


Re: Where Some Of Us Stand
I cannot honestly say that I hate you or that I hate Dan.
I guess this speaks volumes. If I were talking about you or other fundies I would state this.
Theodoric writes:
I can honestly say I do not hate you or other fundies
I guess that is the difference between an atheist world view and a fundie world view. How are you different than Islamic fundies who preach hate?
Watch people in a grocery store approach the lottery scratch ticket machine. You will observe, as have I and others, that they quite literally bow to the machine as they reach down to pick up their purchase of a scrap of dreams.
I don't doubt this. I would bet the vast majority, if not all, are professed christians, not the atheist that you accuse of doing this.
which would be problematic if reality were in fact a higher concept than belief.
You really need to get a grip on reality. Belief doesn't seem to have helped with your addiction issues. Maybe facing reality will. I don't remember the specifics but a governor once said when increasing education funding that they had already tried ignorance and it didn't work. I see something similar with you.
By the way, I have stated before that I do not like Theodoric very much. This is true. I do embrace love more than hate, however.
You embrace love toward those that fit your worldview. As you have stated you can hate those of us that threaten that world view. Why is that? Honestly, I think you are a pompous fool but I can think that and still like you. The idea of hating you in any way is impossible for me to even conceive.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 135 of 141 (745965)
12-30-2014 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 134 by ringo
12-30-2014 11:30 AM


Re: Where Some Of Us Stand
Oh I can hate. That is not what I was saying. I just cannot conceive of caring enough about someone I debate with on the internet enough to hate them. Nothing Phat says has enough effect on me to make me have much emotion toward him at all.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 137 of 141 (745971)
12-30-2014 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by ringo
12-30-2014 11:48 AM


Re: Where Some Of Us Stand
I wasn't talking about everyone, just myself. The internet is just a part of life. I have much more important things that i care much more passionately about. If you start hating people you never met because of something they said in an internet debate, then maybe it is time to reassess a number of things.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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