What is Christianity?

But no one but you has claimed to be the "true" Christians. Jesus most certainly was not a true Christian or even a Christian at all and so far I have not seen any evidence there is a "true Christian".

Nothing there tells us anything about what Christianity is or what God is or what Christian are supposed to do and it proves nothing except that conmen can quotemine. But we knew that.

Remember, I am a Christian, a member of one of the recognized chapters of Club Christian, raised in a Christian household and educated at a Christian school.But what you posted was just nonsense, quotemining that simply did not support even one of your assertions, your editorial comments in the post.So the fact remains that both of us are Christians yet both of us think the others position is just word salad.After all, Exodus is hardly something that can tell us anything more than any other total fiction and something that presents a God character that is certainly unworthy of respect much less worship.

Again, you simply don't seem to understand the question.The topic is "What is a Christian".I don't doubt for a second that you believe what you posted just as I find what you posted is just silly.So other than membership in a Chapter of Club Christian, what defines a Christian?What is a Christian expected to do that would differentiate a Christian from an atheist or Muslim or animist?Edited by jar, : double post replacement.

Again, the purpose of this thread is not to prove or disprove anyone's beliefs. I freely admit that you likely believe what you post to be true just as I believe it to be just nonsense.The topic is "What is Christianity?"

So are you saying that Christianity does not even require someone to believe in God or be a member of a Chapter of Club Christian?Does that make it even harder to decide what is Christianity?

Okay. So related to the topic which is "What is Christianity?", do you have something that might help?

But what does that even mean? What does it mean to have a personal relationship with Jesus? How do people tell you have such a relationship?Edited by jar, : left out "to have"

If you say you have a relationship with Percy anyone reading EvC can see that the two of you have corresponded and that he made yo one of the Admins at EvC. They can establish based on evidence that some form of relationship and communion exists between you and Percy.What comparable evidence exists to show a relationship or communion between you and Jesus?And you still have not explained what "Jesus is alive today!" even means or why doing good works would be irrelevant if you did not have a personal relationship with Jesus.

Again, it may be interesting what you believe but it also tells us nothing about "What is Christianity?"It may tell us what YOU think Christianity is but other than that it has no worth or value.

If I wanted to know if someone really was a doctor and not just claiming to be a doctor then I can consult the licensing boards to see if the individual really is recognized as a doctor. The same process works in other areas as well, someone recognized as a member of the Elks International is an Elk and someone recognized as a Lion by the Lion International is a Lion.We could make similar claims about Christianity; according to the Bible Jesus said that Peter would create his church and the Church in Rome was acknowledged as the First among Equals. Based on that we could say members of Chapters of Club Christian that are part of the Apostolic Succession are Christians.That leaves out a whole bunch of chapters though that are not part of the Apostolic Succession; it leaves out all of the JWs, the Millerites and their successors and in fact most Protestant churches so that seems too restrictive a definition.That brings us back to the membership definition as the only possible determining factor. If someone claims to be a Christian and can point to membership is a chapter (even an unrecognized and self identified chapter) of Club Christian then that person is a Christian.

The problem is there is no single list of what were Jesus' teachings. Even the Bible itself gives us variations on that as seen in the Gospels and Great Commission. No. There were quite a few meetings where the Churches Paul founded were recognized as valid chapters of Club Christian but primacy given to the Church in Rome.

But I'm still lost trying to see how this helps as an identifier. The first "Red Letter" version of the Bible was only printed around the turn of the last century so it's a pretty recent development nor does that give us a way to measure whether or not an individual is following the teachings. Not sure that helps much either. ISIS might be looking just as we are to find a way to determine who is a Christian and who is not. Would your proposal help them?

Again, you are simply telling us what YOUR chapter of Club Christian believes but that tells us nothing about "What is Christianity?"

Again, you are just proselytizing. That tells us nothing and adds no value to the discussion.There are other chapters of Club Christian that disagree with your position, yet they are still Christians.So "What is Christianity?"