Oh No, The New Awesome Primary Thread

Xenophobic jingoist egotist more than racist.Edited by RAZD, : .

And it took 8 years of Clinton to reach 80% recovery from the damage, and we are still paying for the remaining 20%.Just like it has taken 7 years of Obama to reach 80% recovery from the damage done by the Bushnuts who took us back to the economic collapse economics of Reagan tax give-aways and war machinery.Could we recover from another Idiocracy president? or is there a point of no return.Curiously I don't want to find out.Enjoy

Because it is foreign to him.

They will, however, be fighting among themselves ...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HtDNPIIOsM
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Worker threw exception | www.rawstory.com | CloudflareDoes anyone else find this is getting like a Gilbert and Sullivan opera\comedy?Enjoy

Oh I agree that they should be rounded up, prosecuted and jailed.BUT their antics are comically inept (maybe 3 stooges is a better comparison), with competing groups to see who can be the bigger bozos.One of the problems facing law enforcement issues is that the "LEO's" are either sympathizers or members of these organizations, even at state and federal levels. The original Bundy "faceoff" was similarly let to wane without any arrests or prosecutions, and this just emboldens the nutcases.So they strut their hour upon the stage, while normal life proceeds.And the best way I deal with this nonsense is to treat it as comedy.Enjoy

Trump bullies protesters in Burlington:

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Trump Tells Crowd To Steal Coats From Protesters Before Throwing Them Out In The Cold (VIDEO)

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Donald Trump showed reason number 40,058,212 why he would be the worst president in American history today, when he ordered his violent goon supporters to steal the coats off protesters at a rally he was giving, before throwing them outside in the below-freezing cold.

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Trump had arranged his rally in Vermont to be a private event which meant that he could physically remove people from the building by force if he felt inclined to do so. He also had his security guards screen attendees, making people either swear that they were loyal Trump supporters or refusing them entry. Imagine a policy like that at the white house.

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Donald seemed to be positively giddy at the thought of theft and idea of these people being tossed out in sub-freezing temperatures. There were a series of interruptions and some of the comments Trump made during them were as follows:

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Throw them out into the cold!

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Don’t give them their coats. No coats! Confiscate their coats.

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It’s about 10 degrees below zero outside You can keep his coat; tell him we’ll send it to him in a couple of weeks.

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You know it’s sort of fun. Isn’t this more exciting? You know, you go to a Hillary thing. It’s like, boring. You go to a Jeb thing and you fall asleep.

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Are there any remnants?
There’s a remnant. Throw him out.

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The front-runner for the 2016 Republican Nomination for President of the United States was ordering his supporters to literally steal the coats from people, along with any items like money, car keys, or cell phones they had inside, then throw them out of his speaking event. It’s freaking ridiculous and literally criminal what he did to these people.

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And he wanted the confrontation, having his "rally" across the street from the Bernie Sanders headquarters in the town where Bernie was mayor before becoming senator. Trump gave out free tickets for 10 times as many seats as the place holds in order to fill them and to create a mob.This is the way bullies behave, not leaders.Yikes

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Militia Movement Leader Fatally Shoots Fellow Patriot Between the Eyes in Drunken Dispute

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In self defense of course.Enjoy

Words that look similar but mean different things:PALINDROME - a word, or phrase, which makes sense when read backward or forward.PALINDRONE - a helter-skelter mishmash of words that don't make sense no matter how you look at it.Enjoy

Notice that the "news" out of the last town hall meeting (where each candidate was on the stage independently and asked different questions, different attitude loaded questions) is that Bernie said "Will we raise taxes, yes we will ... " while ignoring that he said that you in effect get a tax rebate by not having to pay your private insurance premium for a net benefit for people earning under $250,000/yr.They GOP candidates are also talking about a 90% tax bracket, when the top bracket proposed is 52%: Included in those taxes is universal health care, so lower income families will save by the amount of their private corporation health care plans.This is still lower than the tax brackets under Eisenhower.But the media pundits (like the "moderator" Cuomo for the town hall) would see their taxes increase, so that is what they report rather than the actual facts.Enjoy

You mean the ones making $18,000 a year and thinking they will win the lottery sooner or later? The people that have voted against their own interest for all their lives because daddy was a republican?

Hillary declares victory with less than 0.5% margin after under-performing (losing) in what should (according to the pundits, media and democrat elite) should have been an overwhelming "anointment" ... and there are some questions on the counting.Bernie thanks Iowa and his supporters for a virtual tie and eagerly awaits the New Hampshire results. Correction: a self-described social democrat:

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Social democracy is a political ideology that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a capitalist economy, and a policy regime involving welfare state provisions, collective bargaining arrangements, regulation of the economy in the general interest, measures for income redistribution, and a commitment to representative democracy.[1][2][3] Social democracy thus aims to create the conditions for capitalism to lead to greater egalitarian, democratic and solidaristic outcomes; and is often associated with the set of socioeconomic policies that became prominent in Western and Northern Europeparticularly the Nordic model in the Nordic countriesduring the latter half of the 20th century.[4][5][6]

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In other words a democratic government (of the people by the people for the people) that imposes some controls on capitalism to provide basic needs for all people: single payer health care, equal pay, social security, minimum wages, free education from state institutions, and control over the banks and investment conglomerates.He wants to level the playing field and hold businesses that cheat and steal accountable.In this he follows the lead of FDR and he build on the message of hope campaign that Obama used.Enjoy

Let's see what Mr Sanders has to say:Bernie Sanders Channels FDR To Explain What 'Democratic Socialism' Means To Him | HuffPost Latest News

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Bernie Sanders Channels FDR To Explain What 'Democratic Socialism' Means To Him

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Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders sought to contextualize his self-described democratic socialism on Thursday by pointing out that many of the programs Americans use today -- such as unemployment insurance, Social Security and Medicare -- were considered radical when they were introduced decades ago.

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Sanders’ widely anticipated speech explaining what democratic socialism means to him was hosted at Georgetown University’s new Institute of Politics and Public Service at the McCourt School of Public Policy. The independent senator from Vermont was greeted with rapturous applause by students who had waited in line in the pouring rain to hear his remarks.

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Sanders’ speech invoked Franklin Delano Roosevelt's 1944 State of the Union address, in which the president described a second Bill of Rights" to provide more economic security for the American people. Sanders quoted Roosevelt, who said that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. Necessitous men are not free men.

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In other words, real freedom must include economic security, Sanders said.

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Sanders noted that policies FDR advocated for, such as Social Security, a federal minimum wage, the 40-hour workweek, the eradication of child labor, collective bargaining, banking regulations and other measures, were derided as socialist at the time.

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And he has compared his policies to those in some nordic nations, like Denmark.Social democracy - Wikipedia

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Social democracy is a political ideology that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a capitalist economy, and a policy regime involving welfare state provisions, collective bargaining arrangements, regulation of the economy in the general interest, measures for income redistribution, and a commitment to representative democracy.[1][2][3] Social democracy thus aims to create the conditions for capitalism to lead to greater egalitarian, democratic and solidaristic outcomes; and is often associated with the set of socioeconomic policies that became prominent in Western and Northern Europeparticularly the Nordic model in the Nordic countriesduring the latter half of the 20th century.[4][5][6]

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Sounds a lot like his positions that he has been advocating for years.He also says that getting elected President will not be enough (for any democrat) to ensure that these policies will be enacted, but that it will take a political revolution -- a ground swell of people voting for representatives and senators that support them.Of course the ignorant Tea Potty type Americans will call him a communist and a fascist as they have accused Obama, and will accuse Hillary ... (and anyone that is liberal).Enjoy

No, the General:Lexington mayor Jim Gray announces he's running against Rand Paul for Senate | CNN Politics

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The mayor of Lexington, Kentucky, announced Tuesday he will challenge Rand Paul for the Senate, giving Democrats their best shot yet at defeating the Republican incumbent.

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Interestingly, some of his supporters may switch to Bernie (who appeals to many moderate republicans and a strong majority of independents -- which includes a lot of libertarians).Now that would be newsEdited by RAZD, : .

Yes, she aborted her campaign before the second trimester ...

And then the DNC allotted the delegates ...From Iowa: From New Hampshire: Current Totals: ... what???Under what new math does 21+24 = 44 and not 45?And where in the heck did the (394-9-23=) 362 extra delegates for Hillary come from?ANSWER: superdelegates ...Answers - The Most Trusted Place for Answering Life's Questions

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Superdelegates are non-elected voters who have the full power of delegates despite not being selected through primaries or caucuses. The Democratic National Committee is currently the only political party to appoint superdelegates or to have a weighted nomination system. The number of superdelegates appointed per state depends upon that state's population and Democratic voter registration, thereby giving more weight to states with stronger Democratic bases.
There are 796 super-delegates to the 2008 Democratic National Convention, comprising nearly one fifth of the total number of delegates.

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About half of the super-delegates are current and former elected officials: all current Democratic Congressmen and Governors, and all former presidents, vice presidents, majority and minority leaders. The other half are members of the Democratic National Committee.

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The system is rigged and the establishment is trying to "fix" the election ...Then there is the uncontestably biased Chair of DNC Debbie Wassserman Schultz, who -- it just happens -- was campaign co-chair for Hillary Clinton's 2008 unsuccessful run for President ... who tried to have a short debate season with minimum debates all held before the first primary and all poorly advertised.There has been much abuse here, too much bias and hi-jinks more typical of republicans.So now we have more "unsanctioned" debates because of complaints, and now dirty tricks ... like the "push poll" in Nevada:I Just Got "Push Polled" by Hillary Clinton's Nevada Campaign - Nolan Dalla

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The Hillary Clinton campaign now appears willing to resort to just about anything including using underhanded campaign tactics in order to reverse the national tide turning against her in the four early primary states (and state caucuses). It’s readily apparent that her campaign has begun deploying one of the sneakiest tricks of political survey methodology. It’s called push polling. ...

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INTERVIEWER: Hmmm, okay. So, what if I were to tell you The Washington Post said that Bernie Sanders’ campaign promises would cost more than $20 trillion and would raise everyone’s taxes would you now be more likely’ or ‘less likely to vote for Sanders, or has your opinion remained unchanged?

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INTERVIEWER: Uhhh, what if I were to tell you The New York Times expressed serious reservations about Bernie Sanders being able to work with Congress and described him as ‘divisive’ would you now be more likely’ or ‘less likely to vote for Sanders, or has your opinion remained unchanged?

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What makes this so reprehensible is that many voters will not be able to discern truth from fiction. They will conclude the poll feeling they were important enough to receive a phone call mistakenly believing they were asked fair questions and then were left with lingering doubts about the viability of Bernie Sanders as a presidential candidate.

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The questions are thinly veiled attacks on Bernie Sanders rather than an unbiased opinion poll that it pretends to be.This from the candidate that complained of "artful" smear campaigns.National polls now put Bernie and Hillary neck and neck -- she is running scared.Enjoy