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Bob Bobber
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Message 88 of 280 (779896)
03-09-2016 9:01 AM
Reply to: Message 87 by Faith
03-09-2016 8:32 AM


Re: The Earth for Israel. Heaven for the age of grace.
But it was a city made in heaven that is going to come down from heaven to the earth. It is all about the land for Israel. By going back to the prophet Isaiah, Jesus revealed to his apostles that the blood of the second Adam was the basis by which Israel’s Kingdom program and Israel’s New Covenant could continue on.
Remission of sins, the complete clearing away of Israel’s sin debt could now be accomplished just as Jeremiah, Israel’s New Covenant Prophet had proclaimed. Once the sanctuary is purged, the offerer has settled his debt, he’s repaired the damage he caused. He’s fully atoned, and Yahweh is no longer repelled by the impurity that marred his sanctuary.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 89 of 280 (779898)
03-09-2016 9:12 AM
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03-09-2016 9:01 AM


Re: The Earth for Israel. Heaven for the age of grace.
The Pauline Epistles will of course be of use as an historical record of what will then be past, just as we have the record of Israel’s history in the Old Testament now. Even now, the nucleus of the Remnant is being prepared, hundreds of Israelites are believing in Christ as the Messiah, who know nothing of him as the Savior.
The last days of this present age of grace, the time prior to God closing the door on the program through which he is accomplishing his heavenly purpose today, what will it be like when God says enough is enough on his program for the heavenlies, so he can pick up where he left off with his program for those who will inherit the earth. 


There will be a people for God on the earth during those eventful years, there will be the remnant of believing Israelites, the 144,000 sealed ones, the great multitude, another bodies of faithful ones who are referred to all through the Book of Revelation.

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Message 91 of 280 (779908)
03-09-2016 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 90 by ringo
03-09-2016 10:39 AM


Re: Poe Troll (God Haters)
The question that should be asked is, who talked these angels into doing what they did?

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Message 94 of 280 (779912)
03-09-2016 11:21 AM
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03-09-2016 10:47 AM


When the earth was in the first heaven
Lucifer is the one who took over the earth with it was in the first heaven. Lucifer won, but for some unknown reason, Lucifer flooded out the earth.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 95 of 280 (779914)
03-09-2016 11:29 AM
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03-09-2016 11:09 AM


Re: The Earth for Israel. Heaven for the age of grace.
The Body of Christ is a reality only for the saints who came to Christ through Paul’s good news, and have nothing whosoever to do with the saints of the earthly kingdom calling.

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Message 97 of 280 (779916)
03-09-2016 11:47 AM
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03-09-2016 11:42 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
What was Lucifer created for?

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Message 99 of 280 (779918)
03-09-2016 11:56 AM
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03-09-2016 11:48 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Are you sure you are not Poe'in me around? Lucifer function put him in a unique position to force his creator to light the earth, nothing more. Lucifer won, but why did he flood the earth when it was in the first heaven. Maybe Lucifer was playing around with this -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mtLXpgjHL0&feature=related

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Message 101 of 280 (779921)
03-09-2016 12:22 PM
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03-09-2016 12:06 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
But how can Lucifer's creator visit the earth and have a relationship with the beings living on that earth and still maintain the light source of the earth? Lucifer attacked the light source to the earth when it was in the first heaven. Maybe the people living in Eden died off, bad move on Lucifers part flooding that earth.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 102 of 280 (779922)
03-09-2016 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Faith
03-09-2016 11:09 AM


Let's say their is one Gospel
We see the prayer of faith Israel walked by sight, Yahweh allowed their prayer life to work in connection with sight as that earthly kingdom was on their doorstep. Yahweh worked in connection with the sign nation, the healings that were performed and the power resident in the prayer of faith. 

When the kingdom program was ongoing and Jesus was ready to rule and reign right here on earth, a troubled believer could pray the prayer of faith, when presented with suffering circumstances and those circumstance would disappear. Yahweh provided that prayer of faith, because that kingdom was at hand and the time for troubling circumstances had come to an end. It was time to put an end to pain and suffering, because it was time for the King to rule and reign on this earth.
But mountain moving faith was Yahweh’s way of being glorified in the sovereign reign of the king. It shall be done mountain moving faith used in conjunction with the prayer of faith. Was Jesus pushing them toward faith or was he proving Israel’s lack of faith.
Now once a Israelite made that confession itself would be considered a fruit of righteousness in the eyes of Yahweh. Leviticus 26, beginning with verse 40, is the confession Israel would be called upon to make. Israel would also have to accept the remainder of her punishment, that failure under the law contract would call for and that would be the seven year tribulation.
Now before that kingdom could be realized, there was a prophetic event that had to take place first. The way Jesus taught has special application to that tribulation period to those people who were being taught to pray in this manner. This will be a very heartfelt prayer during the tribulation period.
During the time of Jacob’s trouble, the Israelites will be under tremendous persecution from the antichrist. He will be putting Israelites to death for their faith. The Israelites will be praying at that time, thy kingdom come the promised earthly kingdom to be set up right here on earth, because the only hope of deliverance for the believing Israelites at that time, will be the coming of the king and setting up of the earthly kingdom. But Israel killed their king.

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Message 103 of 280 (779932)
03-09-2016 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by Bob Bobber
03-09-2016 12:22 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Maybe Lucifer flooded the earth when it was in the first heaven just to see what his Creator would do.

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Message 104 of 280 (779934)
03-09-2016 5:54 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by Bob Bobber
03-09-2016 1:06 PM


Re: Let's say their is one Gospel
You see, if Israel could have their sins remitted nationally, then Israel could indeed become that holy nation and kingdom of priests. And if Israel could become that holy nation and kingdom of priests, then the Gentiles would be able to come to Yahweh through Israel’s rise. That is why it would be important for Jesus ‘the messiah’ to be risen, so Israel could have their sins remitted, and they could arise, and the Gentiles could come to Yahweh through the nation Israel. It was only Israel having access to that eternal life that would make it possible for the Gentiles to have that eternal life through Israel’s rise, through the nation Israel. 

But you see, Israel nationally did not accept the Gospel of the Kingdom of Yahweh. They did not accept the Gospel of Yahweh; that Jesus was the son of Yahweh or that Jesus was the risen messiah. They did not accept that at all, so rather than rise, Israel fell. Yet, when it comes to Jesus being risen from among the dead, how could Israel’s promised earthly king sit on the throne of David in a promised literal, earthly kingdom, if the king Yahweh anointed for that kingdom remained a dead king. 

If Jesus be not risen, there is no earthly king. If Jesus be not risen, there is no earthly kingdom. If there is no earthly kingdom and that is when Israel is supposed to be forgiven, then there is no forgiveness for the nation Israel; for the saints of the kingdom program. And if there is no forgiveness, there is no salvation. And if there is no salvation, there certainly is no bodily resurrection. And if there is no bodily resurrection, all this is a story, a fairytale.

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Message 106 of 280 (779943)
03-09-2016 11:47 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by Phat
03-09-2016 11:34 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Lucifer's creator made and formed and created the bodies of all these angels out of a substance called spirit, which is the same kind of substance Lucifer's creator body is composed of. But the life these angels have within themselves, it is not the same kind of life Lucifer's creator has within himself. The life Lucifer's creator has within himself produces some kind of light that his body cannot contain, but the unique life these angels have within themselves, it also produces light that their bodies cannot contain, but that light output can be controlled. The light Lucifer's creator's life produces cannot be controlled, it just shines all the time. Lucifer attacked the way the earth was getting it's light. How can Lucifer's creator visit the earth and have a relationship with the beings living on that earth and still maintain the light source of the earth?

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Message 108 of 280 (779946)
03-10-2016 12:08 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by Faith
03-09-2016 11:49 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Lucifer didn't have the power to force God to light the earth, he disable the light source God used to visit the earth. I used Lucifer's creator, because it sounded good at the time? There is a first heaven, we are in the second heaven, and there is going to be a new heaven. I reasoned this out on my own, I am a researcher.

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Message 110 of 280 (779949)
03-10-2016 12:21 AM
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03-10-2016 12:14 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
But it is in the Bible. It takes a lot of work though, I will save you the time. All was going good, until wrongdoing was found in Lucifer. He disabled the source of light God used when he visited the earth.

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Message 112 of 280 (779951)
03-10-2016 12:47 AM
Reply to: Message 111 by Faith
03-10-2016 12:40 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Let's reason back wards, Gen. 1:1, the earth became without form and void. When you do a word study on 'without form' and 'void', you come up with some crazy figures of speech. Disabled the source of light when God visited the earth, the sides of the north, were all the angels are seated. But maybe the earth was there before these being were created? Do a word study on the word 'north'.
Edited by Bob Bobber, : No reason given.

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