Creation

Hi Proto But when it comes to the actual beginning to exist of the universe science is silent.The BBT starts 1 billionth of a second after the universe existed.Where did the universe come from?It is impossible for the universe to begin to exist from an absence of anything.I have asked cavediver and Son Gouk what existed at T=0 and the answer was "we don't know". They were talking about science not knowing.So the assumption is that the universe began to exist because it is here. It could not have existed forever as it would be a dead universe long before now because it is expanding.So creation science is not precise.Yes I know there is the string hypothesis as well as a bounce hypotheses of which both are called theories but neither has reached that stage yet.Science can go only so far back in time and it comes to a place where the math will not work so nothing can be seen past that point.God Bless,

Hi Cat, I think that was done around 1100 AD.I don't know if they got the order of the verses correct or not.But I do know that Genesis 2:4 claims to be the history of the day God created the heavens and the earth.All generations list follow the declaration of these are the generations of.....Just as the one in chapter 5.God Bless,

Hi Cat, Genesis 1:1 took place in the beginning whenever that was.
Genesis 2:4 is the history of the day God created the heavens and the earth.
Genesis 2:5-4:24 is the history of the day God created the heavens and the earth and took place the same day God created the heavens and the earth.That is what the text says.God Bless,

Hi jar, At what time was the earth in the condition described in Jeremiah 4:23-26 according to the Bible?God Bless,

Hi kbertsche What happened to the first 5 definitions.Biblical Hebrew Overview
A noun is the name of a person, place, or thing.
Properties 1) Gender, 2) number, 3)person, 4) case.
I don't find anything about proper nouns.Why is it that most people today that talk about Biblical Hebrew want to make it a modern language. It has been dead for over 2,000 years.

Hi kbertsche Genesis 1 and Genesis 1:1 are two different things.Genesis 1:1 is a complete declarative statement of completed action by God producing the heavens and the earth.Genesis 1:2-2:3 is the story of God repairing damage caused to the earth by an unknown cause.God Bless,

Hi NoNukes I never said Biblical Hebrew did not have nouns that were names for persons, places and things which covers everything that requires a noun.I did say I did not find anything about proper nouns in any of my grammar books.And the only reference to 'proper noun' in your 4 web sites is the last one at wiktionary.org.Moses did not have nouns all he had was names of people, places and things. Where is daylight mentioned in the Bible?I will give you a little hint. You can not find it between Genesis 1:1 and Revelation 22:21.The Hebrew word translated light is a feminine noun. Light is the name of a thing.
The Hebrew word translated day is a masculine noun. Day is the name of a period of duration. According to Jewish tradition evening comes at 6 pm and morning come a 6 AM made no difference what the duration of that period was it was always 12 hours.So from evening to the following morning would be 12 hours not 24.If you conclude that the evening ended a light period that had lasted for 12 hours and then a dark period that ended with morning another 12 hours you could get a 24 hour day but no other way.You have to go from evening to evening or morning to morning to get a light period and a dark period which would represent 24 hours.God Bless,

Hi NoNukes Jeremiah gives the cause and effect.

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Jeremiah 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.

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4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.

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4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.

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4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.

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God's fierce anger was the cause.
The effect was that the earth was without form and void.
The heavens had no light.
There was no man.
The birds of the heavens were fled.
The fruitful place was a wilderness.
All the cities were destroyed.That sounds like a description of the condition of the earth in Genesis 1:1. 1:2.God Bless,Edited by ICANT, : To correct typo.

Hi kbertscheI have a couple of copies of versions edited by different men.But anybody that talks about Biblical Hebrew having vowels is somebody that I don't put much belief in what they have to say about anything about Biblical Hebrew.I am also sure that Moses did not have a copy of Gesenius Hebrew Grammer.In fact I am not even sure Moses knew what a noun was since the word did not exist until the fourteenth century BC.As I said why do people try to make Biblical Hebrew into a modern language.God Bless,

Hi Proto So somebody makes a bunch of assumptions and people come up with hypothesis which are taught as fact.God Bless,

Hi Cat, Moses did not divide Genesis into sentences, verses, or chapters.
That wasn't done until 1100 AD.But why would Moses put those words in the place they are found.
We are at that time 7 generations from the man formed from the dust of the ground.But if he did the Seth of Genesis 4:26 did not exist past day one in Genesis 1:5.But where is the mention of a son born to the man and woman created in the image of God in Genesis 1:27? There is none, until you get to Genesis 5:3 and he has a son named Seth. This man has no son named Abel or Cain. The Bible text requires all the events which is the history of the day God created the heavens and the earth to take place prior to Genesis 1:2.God Bless,

Hi NoNukes There are many people who look at the verse in all kind of ways.
But that does not change what is written down in the Hebrew text.It was written one specific way and has one specific message, not a dozen or more messages.Explain why Genesis 1:1 is not a complete declarative statement of completed action. NoNukes I could care less whether the Bible is consistent with science.In fact it is not.God created the heavens and the earth.The heavens and the earth did not begin to exist from some God particle that had no place to exist itself.If you believe it did feel free to expound upon such a creation as creation is what we are talking about. Does Genesis 1:1 say that "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth?Does Genesis 2:4 say: "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,".These would be the things that follow as it does in all other places where "These are the generations" appear such as in Genesis 5:1.That would mean that man was the first life form on earth. Gen. 2:7.
Which definitely does not agree with evolution.It would also mean everything that took place in the following verses up to Genesis 1:2 took place in the day God created the heavens and the earth.Explain where I mis-represent what the text says.God Bless,

Hi NoNukes It would not make any difference if they did belong there and they did have a son they named Seth. He would not have existed at Genesis 1:2 as he would have been part of the day God created the heavens and the earth.God Bless,

Hi NoNukes How did Moses have nouns when the word was not created until the 1400's BC?

Hi NoNukes The duration between evening and morning God called night. The duration between morning and evening is what God called day. My first point is that the duration God called day was a duration (period) of light.My second point is that the duration God called night was a duration (period)of darkness.My third point is that the duration of light that ended with the evening and darkness (Genesis 1:2) which God called night that ended with the morning of the second day God called day one. (Genesis 1:5)God Bless,