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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Not if the laws they are acting under came from Obama. Laws? Trump don't need no stinking laws. Sorry Faith, it does not matter when a law was passed or under what Administration. Trump has the power to stop the pogrom but instead he seems to be encouraging it. Anything done under the Trump Administration is the responsibility of Trump. Yes, I know he loves to delegate guilt but unfortunately he is President and so it is his responsibility no matter how he tries to shift the blame.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Agencies don't stop acting under the previous administration's orders when a new administration comes into power, they continue as usual until they have new orders. I suspect this is just one of those typical attempts to pin something on Trump that has nothing to do with anything he's done. You have to do better than assign him the responsibility just because he's now the President. You have to show that the deportations are the result of his orders and not just business as usual or a step-up with another cause than Trump. You obviously don't know, you are just assuming.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Agencies don't stop acting under the previous administration's orders when a new administration comes into power, they continue as usual until they have new orders. I suspect this is just one of those typical attempts to pin something on Trump that has nothing to do with anything he's done. You have to do better than assign him the responsibility just because he's now the President. You have to show that the deportations are the result of his orders and not just business as usual or a step-up with another cause than Trump. You obviously don't know, you are just assuming. Responsibility stops when the holder of the office changes. Sorry Faith but it really is that simple.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
If previous orders are no longer in force and Trump has issued no new orders, ICE should be doing nothing at all.
You are assuming a lot, that's all. You want to complain about Trump but you can't show that he's ordered the deportations you are complaining about. You really don't know what's going on at all. I'd like to know what Trump wants to do about illegal aliens in the country. I hope he will come out with a clear plan soon. The point is that so far I'm not aware of his laying out a plan or giving any orders about it or saying anything along such lines. If he has you ought to be able to show it to me. Meanwhile it just sounds like you love complaining about Trump and that's all there is to this whole subject.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: If previous orders are no longer in force and Trump has issued no new orders, ICE should be doing nothing at all. You are assuming a lot, that's all. You want to complain about Trump but you can't show that he's ordered the deportations you are complaining about. You really don't know what's going on at all. I'd like to know what Trump wants to do about illegal aliens in the country. I hope he will come out with a clear plan soon. The point is that so far I'm not aware of his laying out a plan or giving any orders about it or saying anything along such lines. If he has you ought to be able to show it to me. Meanwhile it just sounds like you love complaining about Trump and that's all there is to this whole subject. Utter nonsense Faith. The responsibility is still Trumps. End of subject.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Agencies don't stop acting under the previous administration's orders when a new administration comes into power, they continue as usual until they have new orders. I suspect this is just one of those typical attempts to pin something on Trump that has nothing to do with anything he's done.
Agencies have issued new relevant orders under the Trump administration. I linked to and quoted two of them. What's happening is due solely to Trump.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
If previous orders are no longer in force and Trump has issued no new orders, ICE should be doing nothing at all.
TRUMP HAS ISSUED NEW ORDERS AND THE AGENCIES HAVE ISSUED MEMOS ON HOW TO ENFORCE THOSE ORDERS. ICE is doing what Trump, and NOT OBAMA, ordered them to do.
You are assuming a lot, that's all.
You are not only assuming that there are no new orders, you are ignoring multiple posts of those very orders. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I guess it was on the other thread that I acknowledged your information and thanked you for it.
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Rrhain Member Posts: 6351 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined:
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Faith writes:
quote: You haven't apologized for your repeated ignorance of the state of things regarding the Trump administration and immigration policy. And did you just argue that because you acknowledged a fact on another thread, that should have no bearing on your posts in this one? Things are only true on the thread that they are posted on? Trump is in charge of ICE in the other thread but Obama's still in charge here?Rrhain Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time. Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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California father detained by ICE while dropping off kids at school.
ICE removing yet another Badass off the streets to make America Great Again was reported by SFGate. This criminal was caught transporting kids in his car and safely removed to be deported. The thirteen year old in the car was able to take a video of the rescue from the 48 year old illegal alien who had been hiding in the US for over two decades and had a criminal record of a DUI only a decade ago and had even purchased a car with an improper registration merely two decades ago. Today the streets of Los Angeles are a little bit safer.
quote: You're safe now Fatima. Edited by jar, : fix quote box
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
According to a report from the Reuters News Service the Department of Homeland Security is planning an all new improved border control policy. Women caught crossing the border with children will be separated, the mother held in detention and the children placed in custody of the Department of Health & Human Services.
quote: source Thanks Trump, have you ever read the US Constitution?
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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This is really disgusting.
From tonight's Reuters' feed: The father of a US Soldier who was criticized by then candidate Trump for being a Muslim who spoke out against the racism and bigotry of Trump but who is a US Citizen himself has been notified that his US travel privileges were under review. He has not been told why or what agency is pulling such a stupid stunt.
quote: quote: Just another example of the pettiness, racism, ignorance and just plain piss poor manners of Donald Trump.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Goodness gracious me. Is travelling a privilege now under Trump? I mean, US citizens have always had the right to leave the US if they wanted to. It's a right.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Pressie writes: Is travelling a privilege now under Trump? I mean, US citizens have always had the right to leave the US if they wanted to. It's a right. The issue is not so much leaving as whether you would be allowed back in.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Nope. It's the right of US citizens to leave and re-enter the US. That's not a privilege. It's a right. No US official can even try to deny entry into the US by any US citizen.
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