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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Again, your task as a creationist is to show that those vestigial frets CAN NOT be used. You need to show that no frets are possible beyond 12.
Why all these extra frets if they're rarely used? The answer is, the "junk" frets (13-20/24) are vestigial; remants of a bygone era - perhaps billions of years ago - when all frets were used equally (not by humans , of course, but by some kind of musical monkey-man).
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CRR Member (Idle past 2270 days) Posts: 579 From: Australia Joined: |
I agree, and as we have seen in other threads neither the word evolution as used in biology nor the theory of evolution can be defined. This leads to almost any example of biological change over time, "evolution", being quoted as evidence for "evolution", the theory of. Nature's "15 EVOLUTIONARY GEMS" provides several examples of this.
Of course nobody in this forum would do such a thing but this slippery meaning of the word evolution provides many opportunities for bait and switch tactics.
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JonF Member (Idle past 196 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Terminology is trumped by reality.
T'was evolution no matter what you label it.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 101 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
NoNukes writes: Dredge writes:
Seriously Dredge. Haven't you already acknowledged that this is a hypothesis? How about making the same claim about the theory of evolution? I stated that the theory that all life on earth shares a common ancestor is useless to applied science The theory that all life shares a common ancestor is the theory of evolution. I don't understand why one is described as a hypothesis and the other is described as a theory.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 101 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Doctors don't care about theories about origins and tales about rodents turning into whales or apes turning into humans. They care about the science of here and now and what works and what doesn't work. ToE is useless to them, hence their terminilogy is different to that employed by the atheist cult of Darwinism.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1433 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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The theory that all life shares a common ancestor is the theory of evolution. I don't understand why one is described as a hypothesis and the other is described as a theory. A theory is a tested hypothesis. A theory also generates hypotheses, like evolution predicts a common ancestor, so that becomes a hypothesis that needs to be tested. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1433 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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I agree, and as we have seen in other threads neither the word evolution as used in biology nor the theory of evolution can be defined. This leads to almost any example of biological change over time, "evolution", being quoted as evidence for "evolution", the theory of. Nature's "15 EVOLUTIONARY GEMS" provides several examples of this. Of course nobody in this forum would do such a thing but this slippery meaning of the word evolution provides many opportunities for bait and switch tactics. oo, like you are doing? Always funny to see two creationists agreeing with each other on missing the point ... I would have said
as we have seen in other threads, both the word evolution, as used in biology, and the theory of evolution, ToE, can be defined in several similar ways with similar meanings. Like synonyms. Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : spby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Dredge writes: No, it isn't. The theory of evolution involves the mechanisms involved in how life changed from the first forms of life (forms of prokaryotes) to the variety of life we see around us today. Mechanisms being the operating word. The theory that all life shares a common ancestor is the theory of evolution... Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
ringo, creationists are trained to think that the term vestigial is a synonym for the word 'useless'.
Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
CRR writes: This one is funny to me. A YEC who thinks that semantics are used as science.
Of course nobody in this forum would do such a thing but this slippery meaning of the word evolution provides many opportunities for bait and switch tactics.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Pressie writes:
Creationists need re-training in a lot of areas. Lack of training is what makes them creationists. ringo, creationists are trained to think that the term vestigial is a synonym for the word 'useless'. Vestigial refers to the loss of a former use. It doesn't necessarily mean there is no current use. For example, wagon wheels have a use are lawn ornaments but they've lost their former use as wagon wheels. Edited by ringo, : Fixed attribution.
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Taq Member Posts: 10084 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Dredge writes: What I'm going on about about is, scientific explanations can be wrong. What does that have to do with whether ToE has application in any specific field?
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Taq Member Posts: 10084 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Dredge writes: The purpose of using "evolved" is to promote their cult of evolution's theology that says, I have always found it fascinating that creationists try so hard to make evolution look like a religion. Why is that?
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Taq Member Posts: 10084 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Dredge writes: The theory that all life shares a common ancestor is the theory of evolution. False. Universal Common Ancestry is a conclusion, not a theory. How many times have we gone over this?
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Taq Member Posts: 10084 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Dredge writes: Doctors don't care about theories about origins and tales about rodents turning into whales or apes turning into humans. Doctors don't care if scientists have unified the weak and electromagnetic forces. Does this mean it isn't true?
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