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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Y'all just keep on proving what I said about character assassination to be true. Sheesh.;
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Oh you mean when I accuse you of accusing me?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
OK, thanks, that's a lot clearer.
Now it would be nice if the "AM" group was broken down by its many different treatment regimes.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Realized this thread has become too much about cancer. The title is about alternative health solutions, not cancer per se, so I'm removing this post which continued the cancer theme.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I don't recall saying much at all about the ACA. Can you point me to it?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Thank you for posting that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I had never hard of Meniere's disease until a couple years ago when my brother was diagnosed with it. It's not life-threatening in the literal sense but it effectively destroys a person's life in another sense. It's a disease of the inner ear that brings on spells of dizziness/vertigo that can last anywhere from a half hour or so to a whole day, sometimes relatively mild but other times like being furiously whipped around on the craziest carnival ride ever, often bringing on vomiting, and making it impossible to navigate in the physical world. It involves tinnitus to an extreme degree, so loud and screaming that all by itself it makes life nearly unlivable. Since being diagnosed with it my brother has made friends with a couple of other men who have been suffering from it, one of them reaching the end stage where the symptoms may stop completely leaving the person totally deaf in the affected ear or ears. He was an airline pilot who had to quit because of it back in the 90s. The other has had it a decade or so longer than my brother and is able to manage it with the help of an understanding employer. My brother got by for a year with long intermissions from it, but it's become more frequent and more debilitating in the last year and I've had to give up on his taking me to the market as he used to do.
The bouts are completely unpredictable, nobody can identify a trigger, though some think they can feel when one is about to come on and pull over to the side of the road or take whatever other defensive action is necessary. Many people have had to give up driving altogether, have lost their jobs, and can't even risk going out at all for fear of being overtaken by an episode in a public place. The doctors know at least that it's associated with blood pressure and prescribe eliminating salt from the diet but that's about all they know, and at best it may lessen the symptoms slightly. Then someone gave my brother a lead to a book written by a woman who had suffered from it and claims to have learned how to completely keep it under control with nutritional supplements. More later. A thunderstorm is brewing and my power may go out. ABE: Storm seems to have moved on. This woman is Mary Kay Carr and her book is "Meniere's Whisperer." She claims to have gone from a debilitating case of the disease that took away her job and her ability to drive, to the reinstatement of job and driving ability by learning more about the disease than most doctors know. I'm getting all this in bits and pieces from my brother mostly but as I understand it her research led her to recognize a connection between the disease and a history of chicken pox, shingles and herpes, which led her to methods of treating those conditions. Trial and error brought her to dietary solutions as well as the use of blood-thinning supplements and others specifically addressed to the herpes virus in particular, starting with Lysine. I don't remember all her recommendations but as I learn more about it I'll report on it. I do have one cautionary concern: that she too may have already passed beyond the active stages into the end stage where her recovery might be more a function of having lived it out than the effect of her treatment regimen. She does say, however, that she did experience her symptoms going away as long as she stuck to the dietary regimen, and then returning with a vengeance when she got complacent and stopped following it. I'm very interested in seeing what it does for my brother and his friends who are now all following it. All three of them had chicken pox and I think herpes simplex and two had shingles. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined:
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I've had a few episodes of dizziness myself over the last couple of years, one quite severe that lasted about half an hour. It woke me up in the middle of the night and I had to sit extremely still to tolerate it. But I had none of the other symptoms of Meniere's so it probably had some other cause. Mentioned it to my doctor who said there are too many things that can cause dizziness so it has to become frequent before a diagnosis becomes clear, or before it's worth doing the testing required to find out what it is.
Just taking deep breaths and getting more oxygen into your system can help in some cases. And there is a disease that's somewhat similar to Meniere's called Positional Something or Other in which the dizzy spells can be stopped by a vigorous shaking of the head especially when lying across a bed and holding the head down off the side, to move around some crystals in the inner ear that are somehow not doing what they are supposed to do. Sorry I'm vague about this but there should be some information on it out there. And some kinds of vertigo attacks can be managed with an antinausea drug called Meclizine. And sometimes these spells are symptoms of some other disease or condition which needs to be diagnosed, which turned out to be the case with Ramoss' friend. Meniere's is a syndrome unto itself however. It often starts with ringing in one ear and a growing deafness in that ear, before it brings on dizzy spells. After it fully develops into the debilitating vertigo attacks the tinnitus may become louder and continuous even during the times between the vertigo attacks. My brother has had periods of freedom from the dizzy spells that even last a few weeks, as well as periods where they occur every other day or so, and they vary from half an hour to as long as fifteen hours in one case, but the tinnitus never goes away. I didn't mention that one of the clues to the connection with herpes comes from autopsies that have revealed the presence of a herpes lesion in the inner ear. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined:
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Listening to the third session of Chris Wark's ten-day blitz of his discussions of how he beat cancer.
In this third module he describes his juicing regime: carrots, celery, beets and ginger root, 64 ounces a day made in the morning, refrigerated, and drunk a glass at a time over the day. He goes into the nutrients in each of these vegetables (starting about 13 on the counter, he gives more rationale if you start a bit earlier and gets into more juice versions if you listen longer, as well as salad recommendations). I'm not going to promise it will cure anything but I would certainly say juices, even carrot alone, can only help and couldn't possibly hurt no matter what your state of health or unhealth and should promote much better health in any case. (A lot of carrot juice will turn you orange but it's harmless) Each module is only up for 24 hours so if you want to hear this one it will be up until mid afternoon tomorrow (about 18 hours from now): SQUARE ONE - Module-3-Implementing the Anti-Cancer Diet (LIVE) - SQUARE ONE Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined:
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Sorry, I first described this as about the effect of vegetable juices but really it's just about the vegetable itself, eaten raw or made into a smoothie or blended and cooked as a soup. I got confused because they had to juice them to get the extract for the study.
=======================================In this same Module Three of Chris Wark's ten-day video talks, SQUARE ONE - Module-3-Implementing the Anti-Cancer Diet (LIVE) - SQUARE ONE around 25 on the counter he talks about a study in which extracts of different vegetables, juiced for the study, were dripped onto cancer cells to find out if they did anything. He says garlic turned out to be the most potent anti-cancer vegetable, and leeks came in second, which is in the same family as garlic. The second most potent category was cruciferous vegetables, broccoli, cauliflower, kale, cabbage, etc. Followed by spinach and beet root. These he includes in a salad twice every day with other vegetables which he lists but he says you can also blend it all together and drink it as a smoothie, or even cook it if rawness is too hard for you, and have it as a soup. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
In two hours and six minutes. 9 pm eastern, 6 pm Pacific
abe: Times seem to be off, it started at 5 here. But it doesn't matter since it's available at any time during the 24 hours from its start. /abe It's also on diet. ABE: Corrected URL:SQUARE ONE - Module-4-The Anti-Cancer Diet Part 2 (LIVE) - SQUARE ONE Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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SQUARE ONE - Module-4-The Anti-Cancer Diet Part 2 (LIVE) - SQUARE ONE This one starts off with fruits, how they stack up as cancer fighters. Cranberries come out on top, then lemons. Berries in general. And an odd fruit called Amla which tastes terrible so you have to get it in powder form but has the highest cancer-fighting ability. He then gets into meats which are to be eaten only in very small quantities if at all, and he goes off the rails on this one in my opinion when he talks about the standards God gave the Israelites as if it had anything to do with health. If you need a biblical standard for meats it should be noted that God rescinded the ancient dietary laws when the gospel went out to the Gentiles, which of course He wouldn't have done if it was about health. So obviously it wasn't. I do think it makes sense to avoid meat from animals that have been treated with hormones and antibiotics or fed anything grown with pesticides etc. or animals or fish that take in a lot of environmental pollutants. You can destroy bacteria by thorough cooking but nothing will remove these drugs and chemicals. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Wark does distinguish, he says only that it's worth trying based on the study.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Why is it I have the feeling you haven't heard anything he's said on these videos? Could it be because you haven't?
Do remember, we're talking about everyday fruits and vegetables here, foods we all eat as part of our normal diet from time to time anyway. What could be wrong with eating a lot more of them, and what could possibly be wrong with eating more of those that kill more cancer cells in a petri dish just in case it makes a difference? He also gives more anecdotal evidence about the efficacy of carrot juice in particular with various cancers, as told to him by different people. Adding to my own impression of its great value. One woman told him she drank 40 ounces a day after being diagnosed with a stage four cancer, I forget which cancer, without changing anything else in her diet or lifestyle, and the cancer went away. Interestingly carrots didn't score anywhere on these studies of what kills cancer cells in petri dishes. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
If you need a biblical standard for meats it should be noted that God rescinded the ancient dietary laws when the gospel went out to the Gentiles, which of course He wouldn't have done if it was about health. So obviously it wasn't. Do you honestly not see the gaping hole in this argument? See no hole, please point it out.
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