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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Translation: "Just come around to agreeing with all of us here and everything will be fine, we'll stop hating you." Except no one here has expressed any reason to even dream that they hate you.
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Faith writes: Just start acting like a true Christian bringing love and good news and stop behaving like a God of vengeance and all your problems of participation here will melt away.
Translation: "Just come around to agreeing with all of us here and everything will be fine, we'll stop hating you." That's not an honest restatement at all. Your difficulties here stem from your hateful attitudes and the insulting and antagonistic way you treat people. You just a few messages ago threatened me with God's judgement:
Faith in Message 1352 writes: I'M so GLAD THAT IF YOU DON'T REPENT HE WILL PUNISH YOU. THIS KIND OF EVIL YOU ARE DOING RICHLY DESERVES IT. I'm beginning to think you expect EvC to fold pretty soon since you are so aggressively violating your own rule about personal attacks as if none of it matters any more. You know, "argue the topic not the person." Wouldn't it be simpler just to suspend me? Internet interaction is moving away from individual websites and toward destination websites like Facebook, Twitter, Walmart, Amazon, Netflix, etc. Because we're not attracting new members, as current members drift away or die (we seem to have an older demographic), EvC Forum *will* die. Keep your eye on the "EvC Forum active members" number at the top of the page. Three years ago it was above 300, soon it will drop below 100. Making things worse, Google puts search results for EvC Forum way far down from the top (pages and pages down from the top) because we don't meet their mobile criteria. But that has nothing do to with my noting of your behavior. When you deliver messages of hate then I will call attention to it. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Faith writes: I thought my post was particularly to the point myself. Your post was this:
Faith in Message 1363 writes: Ugh. Yuck. Blech. If you don't have anything intelligent to say, please don't post. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Faith writes: Just love how the heathen have given themselves the authority to define Christianity. No doubt part of the move to the One World Antichrist religion. The question remains unanswered. How do you know you're not one of the deceived Christians. Certainly your campaign of hate and strong defenses of it hints at Satan's involvement. I'm just speaking from your perspective, of course. My secular assessment is that you're a vortex of hate using God as an excuse. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Faith writes: It isn't really about competence to be parents, it's about what I said: pretense to be equivalent to heterosexual parents which promotes a false idea of marriage and family. Of course if there is no such pretense, but more like being aunts or uncles as guardians, that's something else. I'm sure there are many gays who can be fine parents if they treat it as a guardianship and don't try to confuse biological and social categories in the minds of children. The studies I pointed you at indicate that there is no basis for any of the concerns you state here.
Just because I oppose the playing of false roles because that twists society's categories in people's minds, really doesn't mean I hate gays at all. I don't think it's healthy to pretend you are something you aren't. You are making up objections. No one is playing false roles.
ABE: Gays are sinners like everyone else. They need to be set free from their sin and redeemed by Christ. In any case nobody's sin should be allowed to dictate social policy. More appropriately, religious views of particular sects that they accept on faith should not be driving social policy. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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This opinion piece appeared in today's Washington Post:
It's well worth reading, but here are some excerpts:
quote: Love, not fear which makes Christians lash out in hate, is true Christianity. --Percy
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Percy writes: Love, not fear which makes Christians lash out in hate, is true Christianity. Kinda. The Evangelicals though are true Christians, just very sad people. Their Christianity, Faith's Christianity is as much True Christianity as all other flavors of Christianity. It's just a very nasty form of True Christianity.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What a foul piece of PC garbage that is. Uses all the PC weasel words, the usual revisionist counterfeit version of "love" and on from there. Blech, Yuck, Ugh.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Faith writes: What a foul piece of PC garbage that is. Uses all the PC weasel words, the usual revisionist counterfeit version of "love" and on from there. Blech, Yuck, Ugh. Yeah, sized you up pretty well, didn't it. What part did you object to the most? Making a theological big deal out of selling wedding cakes to gays while voting for pedofiles? Rejecting the main stream media while believing every Twitter rumor and Facebook post? Preferring the word of Vladimir Putin over our own CIA and FBI? Liking guns but not immigrants? Liking the death penality but not the impoverished? Giving lip service to Jesus' teachings but believing poor people deserve what they get, and prison inmates worse? Declaring yourselves victims while discriminating against Muslims? Alienating younger Christians by so eagerly seeking political gain at the expense of faith? Or was it his last sentence you hated most:
quote: Do you have anything that isn't non-substantive and content-free to say? --Percy
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Not one single statement of it is true, not one, it's all at best PC lying spin. The one that kind of gives it all away is calling illegal immigrants and potentially dangerous refugees just "immigrants." Legal and desirable immigrants are fine with us, only PC crazies refuse to make such important distinctions. Reducing the refusal to violate God's law to a meaningless refusal to make wedding cakes for gays is another lie/ I know nothing about voting for pedophiles but I'll guess that all that stuff will eventually fall apart as a bunch of lies. No idea what lie that is involving Putin but I absolutely will not listen to lying leftist political rhetoric any more. Not "liking" the impoverished makes zero sense since Christians are the biggest givers of charity of all groups. Fear? I don't see fear in any of this. You can't love people by violating God's law.
Where is all this evil lying slanderous stuff coming from. Christians run prison ministries all over the country, what's all this stuff against prisoners? I've said all that enough already in this miserable forum. abe I just reread that utterly disgusting lying piece of PC. One has to ask what it is that makes you so ready to believe such slanderous twaddle? Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: You can't love people by violating God's law. Yet as you have been shown the Bible and even Jesus say that loving people often involves violating God's law.
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Faith writes: Not one single statement of it is true, not one, it's all at best PC lying spin. You are wrong once again. All the items are from the recent news, some as recently as last week, none older than a few weeks. I'll explain.
The one that kind of gives it all away is calling illegal immigrants and potentially dangerous refugees just "immigrants." Calling immigrants dangerous is just the Christian right's excuse for not liking immigration.
Legal and desirable immigrants are fine with us, only PC crazies refuse to make such important distinctions. The Christian right in general doesn't like immigrants. See How Americans View Immigrants, and What They Want from Immigration Reform: Findings from the 2015 American Values Atlas. Scroll down to the section on "The Cultural Impact of Immigrants by Religious Affiliation". White evangelical Protestants rank highest in viewing immigrants as "Threatens traditional American customs and values."
Reducing the refusal to violate God's law to a meaningless refusal to make wedding cakes for gays is another lie. I know nothing about voting for pedophiles but I'll guess that all that stuff will eventually fall apart as a bunch of lies. The point it actually made is that the Christian right has elevated the theological importance of refusing certain pastries to gays above that of keeping pedophiles out of public office. The recent example is Roy Moore, the defeated Senatorial candidate in last week's Alabama election.
No idea what lie that is involving Putin but I absolutely will not listen to lying leftist political rhetoric any more. When Trump met with Putin a few weeks ago he was assured that the Russians did not hack the 2016 presidential election, despite what he's been told by the CIA and the FBI. Trump said he believes Putin.
Not "liking" the impoverished makes zero sense since Christians are the biggest givers of charity of all groups. See the article, Christians are more than twice as likely to blame a person’s poverty on lack of effort.
Fear? I don't see fear in any of this. You see fear everywhere, of gays, of immigrants, of different cultures, of government, of the main stream media, and so on.
You can't love people by violating God's law. You could more accurately say, "Evangelicals only love people like themselves."
Where is all this evil lying slanderous stuff coming from. Christians run prison ministries all over the country, what's all this stuff against prisoners? There wasn't "all this stuff against prisoners." It was a single mention referring to Trump's assertion that criminals aren't treated badly enough. For instance, there was when he said that police can stop protecting the heads of those being placed into police cars. It got cheers.
I've said all that enough already in this miserable forum. Yeah, I think that was already plenty of ignorance and malice.
abe I just reread that utterly disgusting lying piece of PC. One has to ask what it is that makes you so ready to believe such slanderous twaddle? It's an opinion piece, but it does draw upon a number of facts. Read it again, this time clicking on the links that provide the support for its claims. --Percy
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
They are lies because they are SPIN. They do not represent the actual truth of the matter, but a PC twisting. ALL LIES.
Roy Moore was only very recently dubbed a pedophile -- which he denies -- so nobody had chosen to vote for a pedophile. Typical PC lying garbage. The "immigrants" I call dangerous are not immigrants, nor are the illegal aliens, they are wannabe immigrants and it is WE who get to choose, not they, and to call them immigrants is typical leftist destruction of language and willful confusion of the public in the service of partisan politics. "Fear" is evil spin. We are acting from basic biblical principles or from some other source of knowledge. Just slander, just character assassination, that's typical leftist m.o. I'm not able to keep up with the PC lies, sorry, I don't have the energy or the motivation, it's all such a big fat miserable lying mess. I'm sorry to see you so enamored of all that.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
It’s funny Faith. When completely baseless accusations are made against people you hate - like Pizzagate - you love it.
When people truthfully criticise you or your fellow Christians you start screaming against it. Is it any wonder people have a low opinion of you ?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Gosh, that's good PC spin too, totally reversing the truth. I will probably faint dead away if the truth ever shows up at EvC.
Hey I have lots of my own problems with today's Christianity, but my complaints are about the kind of liberal PC stuff of that article, the twisted stuff that is laying the foundation for the End Times World Religion. Can't be too far away. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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