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NoNukes Inactive Member |
A couple of comments:
It is the eighth biggest since 1918.
Eliminating the mandate should have only a small effect on insurance rates. So a couple more whoppers from the Big House. No surprise there.
Middle class incomes below say $150,000 will average a 1.6% tax cut. An interesting point from which to do averaging... That group lumps a bunch of well to do folk in with a bunch of struggling folks, yet taxpaying folks. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
If you like most of the rest of the United States are wondering why Trump's base still supports him as strongly as ever, an editorial in yesterday's Washington Post explains why. In To beat President Trump, you have to learn to think like his supporters economist Andrs Miguel Rondn writes:
quote: You got that? Scandal sustains populism! But why? Rondn explains:
quote: That's why populism works. It invents enemies, your enemies, and vows to destroy them for you. Of course it's incredibly popular - that's why it's called populism. It's also called racism, bigotry, xenophobia, stealing, pollution, misogyny, cover-up, and last but not least, blatant lying. Rondn continues:
quote: What do we do? Well, Rondn has some advice about what not to do (parenthesized links to other editorials removed - see the full text of the editorial if you want to see them):
quote: Okay, so that's what not to do. But what do we do? The answer is obvious, and Rondn tells us that, too:
quote: --Percy Edited by Percy, : Grammar.
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1053 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: |
That's why populism works. It invents enemies, your enemies, and vows to destroy them for you. It also helps, of course, that standing amongst the enemies perceived by Trump's supporters are the 'liberal media establishment'. News critical of Trump easily looks like the globalists fighting back. Which is why my heart dies a little whenever I see something like the cringeworthy whining of CNN over the stupid wrestling video tweet. This kind of over-the-top melodrama undermines the media's credibility when it comes to serious and relevant criticism, and strengthens the view of Trump supporters that the 'lamestream media' are out to destroy Trump at any cost.
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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That's why populism works. It invents enemies, your enemies, and vows to destroy them for you. I think populism is latching onto enemies that people already have. I don't think folks like Trump have invented anything. They latch on and inflame what is already there.
(wage stagnation, cultural isolation, a depleted countryside, the opioid crisis). If the Democrats don't have solutions for these things they are done. But I don't think the populist folks want Democratic solutions. They want the Muslims and the Hispanics gone, the black folks in their places, and their football games free from protests. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I was thinking as long as I have my hands up they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Vanity Fair posted a twitter video suggesting New Year's resolutions for Hillary Clinton that has liberal panties all in a bunch. Plenty of fun is being had at Donald Trump's expense - can't Hillary people teach Trump supporters how to take a joke?
Maybe because I'm not a Hillary supporter I couldn't see why those who are were offended, but In truth I didn't find the video funny. Just seemed like a failed attempt at humor. Trump's combination of arrogance and incompetence makes him a prime humor target, but Hillary, at least to me, just seems sad and pathetic, so a different approach to humor seemed necessary. AbE: The Washington Post just posted an opinion piece about the Vanity Fair video: Please stop talking about Hillary Clinton. Brief quote:
quote: --Percy Edited by Percy, : AbE. Edited by Percy, : Fix link.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
caffeine writes:
It also helps, of course, that standing amongst the enemies perceived by Trump's supporters are the 'liberal media establishment'. News critical of Trump easily looks like the globalists fighting back. Which is why my heart dies a little whenever I see something like the cringeworthy whining of CNN over the stupid wrestling video tweet. This kind of over-the-top melodrama undermines the media's credibility when it comes to serious and relevant criticism, and strengthens the view of Trump supporters that the 'lamestream media' are out to destroy Trump at any cost.
What undermines credibility is when a group of people focuses on one story that doesn't mean anything, and then ignores piles of credible and fact based reports that show them in a poor light.
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0
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I just reread an older article from The Atlantic titled What Is A Populist and it had some observations:
The Atlantic writes: Sounds to me a bit like dividing people into believers and unbelievers!
No definition of populism will fully describe all populists. That’s because populism is a thin ideology in that it only speaks to a very small part of a political agenda, according to Cas Mudde, a professor at the University of Georgia and the co-author of Populism: A Very Short Introduction. An ideology like fascism involves a holistic view of how politics, the economy, and society as a whole should be ordered. Populism doesn’t; it calls for kicking out the political establishment, but it doesn’t specify what should replace it. So it’s usually paired with thicker left- or right-wing ideologies like socialism or nationalism.(...)Populists are dividers, not uniters, Mudde told me. They split society into two homogenous and antagonistic groups: the pure people on the one end and the corrupt elite on the other, and say they’re guided by the will of the people.The Atlantic writes: Something fundamental in Trump’s approach to politics changed around the time that Steve Bannon, now the president’s chief strategist in the White House, joined the businessman’s campaign, according to Mudde. Trump had been condemning America’s allegedly incompetent political leaders for decades. But when Trump launched his presidential bid, he was not, in Mudde’s mind, a populist. Over time, however, he’s come to style himself as one, in ways that help illuminate why Trump does what he does and says what he says. Trump’s initial political vocabulary included the corrupt elite but not the pure people. Instead, in rambling speeches, he focused on just one person: himself. Our country needs a truly great leader ... that wrote The Art of the Deal, Trump declared in announcing his candidacy. Gradually, however, his speeches grew more coherent and populist. His remarks at the Republican National Conventionwhich were written by aide Stephen Miller, who developed a taste for nation-state populism while working for Senator Jeff Sessionsmarked a transitional moment. I alone can fix the broken system in Washington, Trump said, promising to serve as the voice of the forgotten men and women of our country. By Inauguration Day, the transformation was complete: Trump’s rhetoric was thoroughly populist. January 20th 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again, he proclaimed. That speech was written by Miller and Bannon, who envisions Trump leading a new economic nationalist movement modeled on the populism of the 19th-century U.S. President Andrew Jackson. I love reading what other writers write. It helps me understand the human condition in general! Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
I missed this Pew Research Center piece when it came out in June, but a Politico article I was reading just linked to it, so here it is: U.S. Image Suffers as Publics Around World Question Trump’s Leadership. Here's the first paragraph and the opening chart:
quote: And this was back in June, 6 months ago. Naturally it must be even worse now. --Percy Edited by Percy, : Grammar.
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Thats what happens when populist nationalism replaces balance global consensus.
Im just wondering how long populism will be in power? If the world gets tired of us, we could suffer by not having them help us should we need it. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Ojn Thursday, December 28, Trump participated in a 30 minute interview with New York Times reporter Michael S. Schmidt: Trump Interview. The Washington Post has now fact-checked the interview and reported the results in this article: In a 30-minute interview, President Trump made 24 false or misleading claims. Here are the most egregious items. The text was cut-n-pasted from the article:
See the article for all 24 Trump errors. --Percy Edited by Percy, : Change Title.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Those aren't lies.
They are all false statements that Trump made. But Trump believes all of them, so they weren't lies. He wasn't asserting what he believed to be false.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
I thought "false or misleading claims," the phrase from the title of the article, wouldn't fit in the message subtitle, but it turns out it does, so I changed the message subtitle.
--Percy Edited by Percy, : Change title.
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
In today's New York Times conservative columnist Bret Stephens explains Why I’m Still a NeverTrumper. Highlights:
quote: --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
I originally posted Message 1604 as a new thread instead of as a response to this thread. Before I noticed the error Nwr posted a response at Message 2, here it is:
nwr in Message 2 of Thread Cultural, not Policy, Reasons for Opposing Trumpism writes: My main disagreement, is that it puts too much blame on Trump.The Republican party had already taken a turn toward evil, long before Trump got into politics. I've been seeing the Republicans as "unfit to govern" for around 30 years. But, arguably, it started before then, when they went with "the Southern Strategy" to use racism as a core, albeit unstated, principle. The Republican Party went for a Faustian bargain. And that, in turn, allowed the party to be co-opted by Trump. --Percy
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