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ringo
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Message 241 of 245 (828045)
02-08-2018 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 240 by Phat
02-08-2018 11:56 AM


Re: Committee Still In Session Eleven Years Later
Phat writes:

keep in mind that this is a play---a made-up story. There are no lies in stories.


If I made up a story about you molesting children, would that be okay? If you explained that you didn't molest anybody but I persisted in spreading the falsehood, would that be okay?
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Phat
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Message 242 of 245 (828080)
02-09-2018 12:42 PM
Reply to: Message 241 by ringo
02-08-2018 12:01 PM


Re: Committee Still In Session Eleven Years Later
OK strike my comment from the record. Continue with your cross-examinations.

Jesus had no photo ID. I recommend admitting him based on his own personal recognizance. You are free to dismiss him and call another wanna-be deity from among the pantheon in the gallery.

Keep in mind, however, that we are looking for a Deity with no evidence.

Shall we conclude absence and dismiss these proceedings, or will we keep looking?


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith :)

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ringo
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Message 243 of 245 (828109)
02-10-2018 11:26 AM
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02-09-2018 12:42 PM


Re: Committee Still In Session Eleven Years Later
Phat writes:

Keep in mind, however, that we are looking for a Deity with no evidence.


What's the point of looking if you've already decided that there's nothing to see?

An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo

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Phat
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Message 244 of 245 (828110)
02-10-2018 11:39 AM
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02-10-2018 11:26 AM


Re: Committee Still In Session Eleven Years Later
Oh there are plenty of candidates. there is just no evidence that any of them are our Deity. I maintain that evidence is not the only standard to be applied.

Lacking much solid evidence, how should this committee proceed? We do have the opportunity to interview each candidate. The spaghetti monster is getting long stares from everyone since we have not yet broke for lunch.

Sophia wisely proclaims that we should be allowed to go across the street to the hamburger stand.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith :)

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ringo
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Message 245 of 245 (828111)
02-10-2018 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 244 by Phat
02-10-2018 11:39 AM


Re: Committee Still In Session Eleven Years Later
Phat writes:

there is just no evidence that any of them are our Deity.


Why not?

It's lame enough to claim that your own preferred deity is hiding from us because "he wants us to have faith" - but it's extra-super-mega-lame to claim that every potential deity would have the same silly policy.

Phat writes:

I maintain that evidence is not the only standard to be applied.


Then explain your standard.

An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo

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