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Percy Member Posts: 22508 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
I think Marc is referring to things like this from Justice William O. Douglas in Griswold v. Connecticut that found a right to privacy in the Constitution that is never explicitly mentioned:
quote: Ironically, today it is the right that puts the greatest stress on a right to privacy. --Percy
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Taq may have been asking for examples of decisions based on "whims" as opposed to more or less consistent principles that marc disagrees with.
We weaken our greatness when we confuse our patriotism with tribal rivalries that have sown resentment and hatred and violence in all the corners of the globe. -- John McCain
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marc9000 Member Posts: 1522 From: Ky U.S. Joined: Member Rating: 1.4 |
What differences have you seen between Merrick Garland's Supreme Court decisions and Antonin Scalia's decisions? Remember, you are the one who said it was inappropriate to replace Scalia with Garland, so let's see those Garland SCOTUS decisions. Garland has never been on the Supreme Court, so we can't reference any SCOTUS decisions of his. But we can reference his decisions and philosophies in other positions he's held. How liberal is Merrick Garland? - POLITICO Big on environmental regulations, big on pleasing big labor, and big on gun control. Nothing like Scalia. Though moderate enough to probably mislead a lot of conservatives into thinking he'd rule from the center. That's what Ginsburg managed to pull off, since she was confirmed 96 to 3. Now if you're going to accuse me of having a double standard, since I'm judging Garland without him having a SCOTUS record, and crying foul when Chiroptera judges Kavanaugh without HIM having a SCOTUS record, what I see is Garland's record from his lower positions making it very clear that he has no respect for the second amendment, which is part of the Bill of Rights. What part of the Bill of Rights, (or any other part of the Constitution) do you and Chiroptera clearly see that Kavanaugh will disrespect?
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marc9000 Member Posts: 1522 From: Ky U.S. Joined: Member Rating: 1.4 |
I was asking for decisions based on "consider the Constitution to have very broad principles and concepts, subject to the whims of today's Democrat party". Can you name any such decisions? Percy writes: I think Marc is referring to things like this from Justice William O. Douglas in Griswold v. Connecticut that found a right to privacy in the Constitution that is never explicitly mentioned: There are tons of examples. It's a rabbit trail I don't care to go down in this "Trump" thread. Not going to take this "off topic" bait. (you're welcome )
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
From The Guardian:
'He's my guy': Trump praises Gianforte for assault on Guardian reporter At a rally in Montana Trump appears to have praised Greg Gianforte's assault on Guardian journalist Ben Jacobs.
We endorsed Greg very early. But I heard that he body-slammed a reporter. This was the day of the election or just before, and I thought, ‘Oh, this is terrible! He’s going to lose the election.’ Trump continued: And then I said, ‘Wait a minute, I know Montana pretty well, I think it might help him.’ And it did. The line prompted another huge cheer from the Montana crowd. The US president finished his account of the physical assault by saying of Gianforte: He’s a great guy. Tough cookie. In a statement, the Guardian US editor, John Mulholland, said: The president of the United States tonight applauded the assault on an American journalist who works for the Guardian. To celebrate an attack on a journalist who was simply doing his job is an attack on the first amendment by someone who has taken an oath to defend it. In the aftermath of the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, it runs the risk of inviting other assaults on journalists both here and across the world where they often face far greater threats. We hope decent people will denounce these comments and that the president will see fit to apologize for them.We weaken our greatness when we confuse our patriotism with tribal rivalries that have sown resentment and hatred and violence in all the corners of the globe. -- John McCain |
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
marc9000 writes: Garland has never been on the Supreme Court, so we can't reference any SCOTUS decisions of his. But we can reference his decisions and philosophies in other positions he's held. Why can't we do the same for Kavanaugh who is replacing a liberal judge?
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
They did, and I imagine the conversation went like this:
Donald Trump: I will nominate Brett Kavanaugh because he is the perfect ideological match for Justice Kennedy, which is the traditional way that Supreme Court justices are chosen. Mitch McConnell: Kavanaugh is the ideological match for Kennedy? Then I will make sure that he is confirmed because it would be untraditional to try to get a right wing conservative to replace Kennedy. Chuck Grassley: The Judiciary Committee will certainly support Kavanaugh's confirmation because if there is one thing this Committee has always done it's respect tradition. - In the future: Brett Kavanaugh for the majority: It should be no surprise that I am voting to require bakers to create wedding cakes for same sex marriages, because I am an ideological match for Kennedy. Oh, and Roe v Wade is settled law, 'cause that's the way Kennedy would have decided as well. Republicans every where: We did it! Hurrah for tradition!We weaken our greatness when we confuse our patriotism with tribal rivalries that have sown resentment and hatred and violence in all the corners of the globe. -- John McCain
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Percy Member Posts: 22508 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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Today's Daily Beast ran this article about Michael Avenatti's complicated legal and financial entanglements with his ex-wife, his ex-law firm, his ex-partners, his ex-racing team, and the IRS: Michael Avenatti Lived the High Life While Owing Millions to IRS. I just sent this email to Mr. Avenatti:
quote: --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22508 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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Trump decided to go ahead with a planned campaign rally in Illinois yesterday, the same day as the synagogue massacre in the Squirrel Hill district of Pittsburgh, justifying it by falsely claiming that the New York Stock Exchange opened the day after 9/11. The reality is that the NYSE did not reopen until 9/17, six days later. It was the longest closure of the NYSE since the Great Depression. (Source)
Rhetorical question: How many messages in this thread have been titled Trump Lies Again? --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22508 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Jewish leaders in Pittsburgh are asking Jews and allies across the nation to sign an online letter to President Trump demanding that he commit himself to these demands else he is not welcome in Pittsburgh:
The letter can be found here: Letter to President Trump from Pittsburgh Jewish LeadersThe demands and signing link are here: Add your name to the list --Percy
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.6 |
And that message is apparently: Fuck You.
Pence invites Christian Rabbi to offer campaign event prayer, an inflammatory and very on-brand move for Trump administration.
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Percy Member Posts: 22508 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Trump is vowing to end the right to US citizenship for those born in the US to noncitizens.
Trump:
quote: The 14th Amendment:
quote: He knows he can't do it. He's just stirring up his base again. What does it say about a base that is so easily and transparently stirred and manipulated, and that finds messages of hate so energizing and enthralling? After Trump is gone they'll still be here. AbE: Trump apparently lied again when he said the US was the only such nation. NumbersUSA says there are 33 such nations: Nations Granting Birthright Citizenship. The US and Canada are the only developed countries on the list. Source: Trump eyeing executive order to end citizenship for children born in U.S. to noncitizens --Percy Edited by Percy, : AbE.
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Diomedes Member Posts: 996 From: Central Florida, USA Joined: |
He knows he can't do it. He's just stirring up his base again. It's likely just political grandstanding. As you said, its to rally the base. A sitting president can't just use executive orders to overrule the constitution. Otherwise, one of them could just overturn the 2nd amendment and make guns illegal. What makes me scratch my head is how he can make such a flagrant claim whilst simultaneously indicating how important it is to hold up the constitution. Something his base is also very rabid about. Guess the irony is lost.
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Percy Member Posts: 22508 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
From today's Washington Post by Chesley B. 'Sully' Sullenberger III: We saved 155 lives on the Hudson. Now let’s vote for leaders who’ll protect us all.. Excerpts:
quote: Germany was a civilized country before a propagandist instigator brought out the basest instincts in an entire people and brought upon the world the greatest conflagration it had ever seen. The people we see at Trump Rallies chanting "Lock her up" and "Animals" and "Build a wall — kill them all" must be good people at heart. They need a leader who will bring out the better angels of their nature. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22508 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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Barbra Stresand will soon be releasing her new Album "Walls," directed at her least favorite president. One song has already been released, "Don't Lie to Me":
--Percy
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