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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Do you think people should be able to blaspheme against the Jesus guy and your pitiful excuse for a god? Thats what free will basically is. People have chosen their destinies as best as they can. They are fully responsible for their actions. This includes all of us. Do you think the government should treat atheists differently? The government? This entity is composed of many individuals. I believe they have chosen which club to belong to. God is not threatened by any of this. He is a threat only to those who oppose Him. I would get to know Him if I were you.
Answer honestly. Do you think people should be allowed to make fun of your god without retribution? They should never fear retribution from us. What they should fear is retribution from God. I tend to believe, however, that it takes a lot to piss Him off. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Don't need your preaching. Save it for the Faith forums.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Don't need your preaching. Save it for the Faith forums. lol And I don't need your evidence nor your insistence upon framing secular belief as the global default. Save it for your Starbucks coffee get-togethers with the inclusivists! Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
theodoric, accusing me writes: No. What I would support is the idea that secular humanism never becomes the global default "belief". It is a tool of the antichrist. You would support the suppression and punishment of people that you feel are a threat to your religious beliefs. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Tangle Member Posts: 9516 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Phat writes: What I would support is the idea that secular humanism never becomes the global default "belief". You're in luck, secular humanism will eventually become the norm but not in your lifetime.
It is a tool of the antichrist. Don't be childish.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Are you worried, like Faith, that the culture is going over to "the dark side"?
... I worry that the wrong spirit is permeating the culture. Phat writes:
There is no "fallen nature". You're calling God a liar. It is intrinsic to the fallen nature to deny that God exists.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
You're calling God a liar. No. Technically I'm calling the spirit the runs you around a liar. It masquerades as rational and logical yet denies Jesus Christ and shepherds you into a secular evidence-based world view which ordinarily would be fine...healthy, even. The key that this spirit isn't of God is that it denies Jesus Christ. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
No. This has nothing to do with me. When you talk about "the Fall", you're calling God a liar because He said Adam and Eve had become more like Him. That is not a "Fall".
No. Technically I'm calling the spirit the runs you around a liar. Phat writes:
Denying Jesus Christ is rational and logical. Belief is not.
It masquerades as rational and logical yet denies Jesus Christ ... Phat writes:
Accepting reality is always fine, healthy even.
... and shepherds you into a secular evidence-based world view which ordinarily would be fine...healthy, even. Phat writes:
And you deny God when he says there was no "Fall". So why would we pay any attention to what you think the "spirit of God" is? The key that this spirit isn't of God is that it denies Jesus Christ.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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Tangle Member Posts: 9516 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Are there any other areas of you're life that you've started talking utter shite about Phat? Or is it just this religious shite? Are talking to your doctor about it?
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
tangle writes: I am in contact with several Doctors. I am honest with them and take their advice. Much of my current psychosis stems from the Phentermine that I was prescribed for my weight loss. I try and keep the stimulant effects of this drug from overwhelming my usually docile mind, and have informed the Doctor of some of these side effects. Apart from that, I don't get the context of your statement. Are you attempting humor, irony, or honest criticism? Clarification will help my response. Are there any other areas of you're life that you've started talking utter shite about Phat? Or is it just this religious shite? Are talking to your doctor about it? Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
ringo writes: God never said that. you interpreted the scripture to say that. It is your little demon...masquerading as God...who is misleading this conversation. So why should we pay any attention to it? And you deny God when he says there was no "Fall". So why would we pay any attention to what you think the "spirit of God" is?Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
ringo writes: See what it says to you? Are you really going to continue to deny Christ and listen to that little thing? The serious part of all of this is that it has you convinced that it is you. You hear your own voice, but it is that thing that lies to you. Fight it by accepting the voice that spoke the message to you. Fight it by being true to your heart. Denying Jesus Christ is rational and logical.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Don't lie. The scripture does say that. Here it is again, for the umpteenth time:
God never said that. you interpreted the scripture to say that.quote:Note: "The man is become as one of us..." That is not an interpretation. It is an exact quote. Phat writes:
And yet I am the one who is quoting scripture.
It is your little demon...masquerading as God...who is misleading this conversation. Phat writes:
I couldn't care less what you pay attention to. But as long as you keep lying about the Bible, I'm going to point out your lies. So why should we pay any attention to it?All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
Are you really going to continue to deny reality?
Are you really going to continue to deny Christ and listen to that little thing? Phat writes:
You're seriously going around the bend now. There is no "it". There is no "thing". You're being paranoid. You need to get help. The serious part of all of this is that it has you convinced that it is you.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
What percentage of christians do you think have ever read their bible? I mean actually read it cover to cover. Not just taking verses out of context. Does anyone think more than 5% of christians have actually read the bible?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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