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Topic: SN 2013fs happened and we saw it.
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Message 1 of 12 (799704)
02-13-2017 3:39 PM
The star that went super nova is located over 160 million light years from earth.
Is there any other explanation that can explain what was seen and documented other than that the event happened 160 million years ago?
Dates & Dating as a suggested location.
Edited by jar, : take out an extra space I s ----> Is
Edited by jar, : fix fumble fingers miles -----> light years
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Message 2 of 12 (799706)
02-13-2017 4:02 PM
Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum SN 2013fs happened and we saw it. thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.
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Message 3 of 12 (799707)
02-13-2017 4:48 PM
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
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Message 4 of 12 (799708)
02-13-2017 5:03 PM
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Nitpick: Should be light years instead of miles?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Message 5 of 12 (799709)
02-13-2017 5:10 PM
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Message 6 of 12 (799724)
02-14-2017 6:39 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by jar
jar writes: Is there any other explanation that can explain what was seen and documented other than that the event happened 160 million years ago?
Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Message 7 of 12 (799726)
02-14-2017 6:52 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Pressie
The Flood, which happened a few thousand years ago, changed the constant c universally.
It would certainly have made it bigger and wetter....
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Message 8 of 12 (799727)
02-14-2017 7:28 AM
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Message 9 of 12 (799728)
02-14-2017 7:31 AM
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Message 10 of 12 (799744)
02-14-2017 12:18 PM
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"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." – Albert Einstein
“I am very astonished that the scientific picture of the real world around me is very deficient. It gives us a lot of factual information, puts all of our experience in a magnificently consistent order, but it is ghastly silent about all and sundry that is really near to our heart, that really matters to us. It cannot tell us a word about red and blue, bitter and sweet, physical pain and physical delight; it knows nothing of beautiful and ugly, good or bad, God and eternity. Science sometimes pretends to answer questions in these domains, but the answers are very often so silly that we are not inclined to take them seriously.” – Erwin Schroedinger
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Message 11 of 12 (799755)
02-14-2017 2:46 PM
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Ken Ham.... and eggs....on face Yes. The Flood, which happened a few thousand years ago, changed the constant c universally.
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Message 12 of 12 (799785)
02-15-2017 6:50 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by kbertsche
But, the short answer from his books (translated) goes something like this: "...like the global flood also affected the assumptions involved in radioactive decay rates".
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