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jar Member  Posts: 29028 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 2.6 |
Back on October 6, 2013 an automated survey at Palomar Observatory in California captured images of a new Super Nova. We can say with near certainty that the object changed. This is an observed change, direct evidence of an event taking place in reality in time. The star that went super nova is located over 160 million light years from earth. Is there any other explanation that can explain what was seen and documented other than that the event happened 160 million years ago? Dates & Dating as a suggested location. Edited by jar, : take out an extra space I s ----> Is Edited by jar, : fix fumble fingers miles -----> light years
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Admin Director  Posts: 12516 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
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Coyote Member  Posts: 5863 Joined: Member Rating: 4.0 |
Nitpick: Should be light years instead of miles? Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
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Theodoric Member  Posts: 5765 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
I hope so. If not we are in for a world of hurt. Actually I think we would have been already. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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jar Member Posts: 29028 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 2.6 |
Yup. Will change.
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Pressie Member Posts: 1621 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: Member Rating: 2.6 |
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vimesey Member  Posts: 868 From: Birmingham, England Joined: Member Rating: 4.6 |
It would certainly have made it bigger and wetter.... Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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Pressie Member Posts: 1621 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: Member Rating: 2.6 |
See below. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member Posts: 1621 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: Member Rating: 2.6 |
Don't laugh. One of our local famous YEC creationists, a mechanical engineer by trade, preaches that "science says that the Big Bang occured in a wet Primodal Soup"and that the Global Flood changed it all, again. The fundies hang onto his lips and basically worship him. He's a scientist!
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kbertsche Member Posts: 1361 From: San Jose, CA, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
Has anyone ever asked him the obvious question: how could a flood on one planet affect c in distant galaxies? "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." – Albert Einstein “I am very astonished that the scientific picture of the real world around me is very deficient. It gives us a lot of factual information, puts all of our experience in a magnificently consistent order, but it is ghastly silent about all and sundry that is really near to our heart, that really matters to us. It cannot tell us a word about red and blue, bitter and sweet, physical pain and physical delight; it knows nothing of beautiful and ugly, good or bad, God and eternity. Science sometimes pretends to answer questions in these domains, but the answers are very often so silly that we are not inclined to take them seriously.” – Erwin Schroedinger
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Diomedes Member  Posts: 628 From: Central Florida, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
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Pressie Member Posts: 1621 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: Member Rating: 2.6 |
Nobody can ask questions, as it is published in his books. Like any good creationist does. No questions allowed. But, the short answer from his books (translated) goes something like this: "...like the global flood also affected the assumptions involved in radioactive decay rates". Edited by Pressie, : No reason given. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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