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TrueCreation
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Message 5 of 45 (4716)
02-16-2002 2:04 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Socrates
02-15-2002 12:08 PM


"1)Age?"
--15
"2)Level of education?"
--Currently in High School. Level of Education Collage in Biology Chemistry, Physics, Marine Geology.
"3)What is your occupation?"
--Graphics, Flash Animation, and Web Design.
"4)Would you consider yourself religious?"
--No.
"If yes, what religion?"
--Christianity (Jesus himself was not fond of religious practice)
"5)Have you ever taken a high school AP Biology course or any college biology course?"
--No.
"6)Do you "believe" in evolution or creationism (or ID)? (or none of these, or both?)"
--Young Earth Creationism.
"Thank you."
--Very welcome.
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TrueCreation
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Message 10 of 45 (4789)
02-16-2002 8:52 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by joz
02-16-2002 7:23 PM


"Sorry TC but earlier you said that you hadn`t reached calculus in your studies of maths and now your claiming college level physics, trust me bud one of those statements is false....."
--Yes I have read on collage physics, a bit of pre-calc, but nothing of the sort of having the ability to understand calculus on the level that the book on astrophysics would need to attain. I havent taken the courses, but I read the books that the courses go through.
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TrueCreation
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Message 14 of 45 (4806)
02-17-2002 2:13 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by joz
02-16-2002 11:24 PM


"TC you may have read college level texts in physics but without calculus you can`t have the detailed understanding of the subject equivalent to a college level education....
Without Calculus how do you interpret the Schroedinger wave equation? Or the TdS equations?
Post Newton college level physics requires calculus, sorry but that is a fact...."
--Are there not levels of physics in collage? I say I have a collage level, not a high collage level. I'm sure someone who majors in physics must aquire a vast amount of classes in physics.
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TrueCreation
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Message 23 of 45 (4889)
02-17-2002 11:18 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by joz
02-17-2002 9:59 AM


"Ok what college level physics do you know? Mechanics requires calculus as does wave theory."
--I wouldn't know what college level physics I know, but I know that it is much above high schools provide, I would be considered a 'beginner' as a collage physics student, though in high school its a bit different.
"Do you know the difference between the dot and cross products (aka Scalar and vector) if not then you cannot have a college level understanding of F=Bqv as the correct college level formulation is F= q(dot)v(cross)B...."
--Cross Product Between Vectors - Have u=ai + bj + ck and v = di+ej + fk be the vectors so we can define the cross product as v x w by determination of the matrix, etc etc. Dot - Define the dot-product of the vectors v = ai+bj and w = ci + dj then v.w = ac+bd. Probably wouldn't believe me as anything of this nature is accessable on the internet.
"This is all first year college material in Britain......"
--Can't wait to get to collage then, I have a high level in mathematics, though since not based on courses, its a bit rudimentary, missing things here and there.
--I didn't think I would cause so much of a ruckuss just by saying such a level of physics, though I see it is speculative regarding my age.
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TrueCreation
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Message 24 of 45 (4890)
02-17-2002 11:20 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by doctrbill
02-17-2002 12:15 PM


"I find it interesting that you claim college experience and yet continue to misspell the word COLLEGE! Look up the word COLLAGE. I think you will find it an enlightening experience."
--Sorry, its sortof a habit from typing without a spell-checker for so many years.
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TrueCreation
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Message 25 of 45 (4891)
02-17-2002 11:24 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by no2creation
02-17-2002 12:57 PM


"LMAO. I've had a Collage experience at the age of 5. Yet, I didn't actually attend College until I was 20.
Sometimes posting on this board can be very humerous. BTW, Please feel free to make fun of me for my spelling errors. LOL"
--G whiz, you guys are so mean! You spelled humorous wrong..hehe, gotcha
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TrueCreation
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Message 26 of 45 (4892)
02-17-2002 11:31 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Mister Pamboli
02-17-2002 7:51 PM


"Ach, it was quite gentle humour, was it not? I doubt TC will mind."
--Yes, it was quite fine..*sniffle*
"BTW, do I notice a little change in attitude on the forum since TC's age was revealed?"
--People are so quick to riducule and critisize by age, G-Whiz. At least I can give my age group a fairly good name in these areas of discussion.
"TC is rhetorically effective if a little weak on logic and a little too willing to flip between modes of reference as it suits, but this is a common failing at any age."
--If I had been pro-evolution, perspecive would commute in the eyes of many on the boards. Isn't it logical to say that if I were I wouldn't be so weak on logic? And I am simply willing to accept the advancement in science, which is an accusation proposed against creationists constantly that we don't accept theoretical change. But as I argue within, this is the strength of science, not its fallback.
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TrueCreation
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Message 27 of 45 (4893)
02-17-2002 11:34 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by joz
02-17-2002 8:36 PM


"The point is gene that without the essential mathematical tools TC can not claim a college level understanding of physics....
unless the college in question is patriot university that is....."
--I never went to collage to get my physics education, it comes from my readings on the subject, so I am weak in some areas because I may have missed things here and there, but I am well above much of what most high schools offer in physics.
"P.S first Schraf then Mr P have refered to TC in the plural is there something I`m not picking up on?"
--There's a no2creation running around in the forums, maybe that's the perpetrator!
--Didn't think I would cause such a ruckuss on the subject.
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TrueCreation
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Message 37 of 45 (4973)
02-18-2002 5:42 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Mister Pamboli
02-18-2002 4:48 PM


"Take this as a compliment TC - I only bother to criticize your logic because it is worth criticizing. There are lots of posts with quite appalling logical howlers which are hardly worth dealing with. In your case, you're weakness in logic is subtle and it is its subtlety which leads you into error, because the argument may often look and feel right to an uncritical eye. (You should be a politician.)"
--Yes, I guess it is simply common (more in some) that you find this, its simple change, afterall, we are here to debate, and to debate in such a topic requires adaptivity to new information and ideas.
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TrueCreation
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Message 41 of 45 (8116)
04-02-2002 7:50 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by bkwusa
02-18-2002 10:05 PM


"5)Have you ever taken a high school AP Biology course or any college biology course?
i'm currently in evolutionary geology"
--Hey now, give me a heads-up when you are finished with your text-book, I would most be interested in its purchase if possible
Or in the least what is its published name and author, or mabye its isbn? I've been meaning to get one, possibly this could be a recommendation?
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