Prostitution-what to do

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I only mean to say that as far as I am concerned the marriage contract is primarily a financial contract, and if you do not believe this to be the case, you need to be made aware of what happens to property during a divorce proceeding.

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That is just the legal stuff.Marriage as a relationship is about much more than finances and sex.It is about love and partnership.You can't pay someone to love you.

I'll also tell another story that is even more relevant.My then-fiance and his buddies all went to a strip club for his bachelor party. One of his friends took a fancy to a particular stripper and gave her a lot of money during the time she was on stage. After she was done stripping, she came and socialized with this guy and was really nice to him.On the way home, he talked and talked about how beautiful and hot and nice she had been to him, and at one point said, "Oh, you guys probably paid her to be so nice to me."The reply from everybody else was, "No, YOU did."The interesting thing about this particular fellow is that while he is a good and very kind and generous person, socially he is pretty much an idiot. It is seriously suspected among his frinds that he has a mild form of Asperger's Syndrome.He is very intelligent and is highly-educated and is a highly-paid professional computer programmer. Isn't it kind of sad, though, that he so easily almost deceived himself to think that his relationship with that stripper was anything close to resembling a friendship? Edited by nator, : No reason given.

In fact, I have my marriage license right here in front of me, and it makes no stipulations about financial matters. My wife and I were not required to get joint checking accounts, we don't have to file combined returns, and indeed, if we decided to divorce, I doubt we'd have any problem divying up. The only time the legal process would become involved is when we filed the paperwork.Anytime there's a dispute about how to sever joint ownership of property, there's a place for legal arbitration; but most of the acrimonious conduct in a divorce proceeding isn't about property; it's about misusing the legal system to wage emotional battles. Bully for you. No, seriously. You're under no obligation to defend your marriage to any of us, and I hope it makes you happy, as mine does me.

Nator, I like your post very much. I cannot disagree with you and the kind of marriage that you speak of is to be sought and when attained, protected. But not every one finds love or is satisfied with the sex in a single relationship.

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(I do find it interesting that you mention nothing of love in your description of marriage)

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Actually I am happily married, in love with my spouse, and at age 57 am less inclined to wander away from this relationship for sex or companionship. But we have an open marriage, an honest relationship; she has a boyfriend whom I have met and it's all good. As to my quote of you above, let me say that for me love is taking care of the people that you care for. I am a very contented person enjoying love and life. The reason I hold the position on prostitution that I do, is that I wish it for everyone; lovemaking should be decriminalized except in cases where there is abuse.

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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-Carl Sagan

I tend to see marriage as more than financial gain and partnership. People may not recognize it, but the most important part of marriage is the social recognition you get from it. When I introduce my wife to people, all I have to say is "this is my wife" and they automatically assume this is the most important person in my life. When she introduces me to her friends by saying "this is my husband", she's really saying "I know he's hot, but he's mine, ladies!"Humans are social creatures. We would not do so well if there is noone else around. In fact, I firmly believe that our marriage would seize to have any meaning if she and I are trapped on an island with noone else.The "we don't care what other people think as long as we are happy" crowd is just full of it.

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We are BOG. Resistance is voltage over current.

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He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!

Yes it is sad indeed. My best advice to everyone is "buyer beware", and that is equally appropriate for those getting married. That is the advice that I have given my son.Edited by Jon Paine, : No reason given.Edited by Jon Paine, : No reason given.

Tasmanian Devil and Crashfrog,
Nice posts. All relationships are unique, and I am happy for those who find love in their relationship.
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"These men and women certainly are a product of their environment, however, I wouldn't say that they are incapable of leaving such a lifestyle in trade for a healthy, productive one."GIA wrote
Prostitute saying. Dogs have fleas, hookers have social workers.
Some do make a clean break. Not enough."Who is the "we" in this? Do you mean society as a whole?GIA wrote
Yes. We are all part of the problem."Also, prostitutes don't generally end up in prisons, unforgotten, unless they committed some other crime of greater consequence. Usually if they get picked up for prostitution, they are released the next day."GIA wrote
Yes, after a pay off and a freebie. Some of the time only, I realize that."They could always do what most everyone else does-- they can work."GIA wrote
At a certain age yes but remember that a lot of hookers are forced from home before they are of age to work. Solution cannot be simple."They are being payed for offering sexual services in trade for money. The John's that visit these women for sexual favors could care less about their welfare."GIA wrote
This is true. The sex we speak of is without emotion on the part of both seller and buyer. The sale is of friction, nothing else."Questions about morality don't apply when speaking about survival of the fittest. The survival of the fittest is the most ruthless, the most revered, the most feared. Yet, those people don't seem to last too long out in the wild (society) without suffering some sort of act of reprisal."GIA wrote
You give qualities for survival and then you say they are not really qualities??"Would wealth and education put an end to these practices? It appears not."GIA wrote
Is there an example of this. Where does it appears not."Its a moral matter, not an intellectual one."GIA wrote
Morals and ethics must need intelligence to ditherer out the position."By paying a prostitute to have sex with you, you simply keep her locked in that world that is completely detrimental to her well being. I think the best way to handle it is to offer her money just to sit and talk with you about any other possible avenues in life for her to travel. One, she'll appreciate that she isn't losing money, and two, I'm sure it would be nice for her to a have man sit and talk with her without using her for her body. She may be more apt to listen to someone who treats her like a person, not a walking vagina.GIA wrote
I agree to the sentiment expressed but doubt the results.
Wish I was wrong though.
I have to wonder if they would see it as preaching or not take it as meant.
Now if we came to them with a job offer, then we could expect results from the majority of these people. That would work.
Unfortunately there are not enough jobs.Regards
DL

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Nator, I like your post very much. I cannot disagree with you and the kind of marriage that you speak of is to be sought and when attained, protected. But not every one finds love or is satisfied with the sex in a single relationship.

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OK, but that's not at all the way you previously portrayed prostitution as "marriage for a night" or similar.

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Actually I am happily married, in love with my spouse, and at age 57 am less inclined to wander away from this relationship for sex or companionship. But we have an open marriage, an honest relationship; she has a boyfriend whom I have met and it's all good. As to my quote of you above, let me say that for me love is taking care of the people that you care for. I am a very contented person enjoying love and life. The reason I hold the position on prostitution that I do, is that I wish it for everyone; lovemaking should be decriminalized except in cases where there is abuse.

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More power to you both.But again, this is not really what you claimed before.Paying someone to have sex with you is not the same as "marriage for a night" unless you consider marriage to be devoid of sincere, freely-given love, companionship, friendship, and physical intimacy with no expectation of payment.

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9 out of 10 times the men and women who offer these services are destitute and looking for money to support an ever-increasing drug habit.

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Since prostitution is illegal in 49 states, and highly regulated in Nevada, should I assume you are speaking about women from other countries? Countries like Thailand perhaps? If you are talking about places like Thailand, I would argue that drugs and disease are just as much a factor whether legal or illegal?

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"I marvel that where the ambitious dreams of myself and of Alexander and of Caesar should have vanished into thin air, a Judean peasant”- Jesus ”-should be able to stretch his hands across the centuries, and control the destinies of men and nations." -Napoleon Bonaparte

I consider a one night stand, paid in full, without the sentiments of love to be quite legitimate. It may be the best that both partners can do at that time in their lives. The fact that I have a better relationship with my spouse does not diminish the value of the other types of sexual experience for myself and others. It should be a matter of choice to pursue the type experience that one desires, or has to settle for. My purpose in using this portrayal of a "marriage for a night" is solely to express my opinion that a one night stand should be considered legitimate in a free thinking society, even when it is a "for profit" agreement. The extent of the "quality time" during such rendezvous necessarily will be entirely up to the participants. Lovemaking for consenting adults should be made available by society. If it was abundantly available, we wouldn't have crazies flying into skyscrapers in the hope of attaining their first lay with the promised forty-two virgins.Edited by Jon Paine, : No reason given.Edited by Jon Paine, : spelling

You know as well as anyone else here that your example is unfair. Thailand isn't a developed country and it has little protection for the common worker. Prostitutes aren't the only ones that are exploited to the fullest in that country. Just about every low wage worker is exploited to a point of rediculousness.

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We are BOG. Resistance is voltage over current.

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Disclaimer:

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Occasionally, owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have used he/him/his meaning he or she/him or her/his or her in order to avoid awkwardness of style.

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He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!

Sorry, double post.Edited by Jon Paine, : Sorry, double postEdited by Jon Paine, : delete sig

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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-Carl Sagan

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Since prostitution is illegal in 49 states, and highly regulated in Nevada, should I assume you are speaking about women from other countries? Countries like Thailand perhaps? If you are talking about places like Thailand, I would argue that drugs and disease are just as much a factor whether legal or illegal?

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I am talking about places where prostitution is legal, such as Nevada and the Netherlands.The reason it is "highly regulated" in those places is to provide worker protection and consumer protection, as well.It has long been observed that physical and sexual abuse and drug addiction are much reduced in prostitute populations in countries where it is legal and highly regulated.Prostitution is, in fact, illegal in Thailand, though the laws are unenforced.