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Author Topic:   The Current Global Recession
New Cat's Eye
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Message 40 of 49 (502491)
03-11-2009 6:24 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by onifre
03-11-2009 5:30 PM


Hi onifre,
But, what do you do when the people running the business continue to fuck it up, no matter what party is in charge?
Turn your back on them and take care of yourselfs. Oppose the ones whose measures prevent you from doing so.
Otherwise, you're really no better than the YECs who are loaded with blanks.
Not bad, but Radical Fundamentalist Muslim would have made more of an impact in delivering that final blow to me.
Let me try.
Otherwise, you are no better than the aristocrats who turned their face at what the Ancien Rgime was doing to the poor for fear of losing your meaningless material things. When material things are given more worth than human lives, all is lost. - How was that?
That was good. I thought it was funny.
How can you know what the government has hidden without research?
Yes I'll get to it as soon as I'm done laughing at people fall off tables on youtube.
Now that one had me laughing.
It seems like there's so much sarcasm that there's really none at all. I believed that you do what those videos. I laughed because I watch them too.
Oh yeah.... topics.
Joking aside, I hope you are right. Seriously, I mean that.
I hope he's right too. I doubt we're fucked.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 42 of 49 (502522)
03-12-2009 1:36 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by onifre
03-11-2009 7:01 PM


I believe that's the first time you've ever greeted me. - lol
It happens very rarely....
I usually address the arguments and not the person. I don't greet the person if I'm not addressing them.
Turn your back on them and take care of yourselfs. Oppose the ones whose measures prevent you from doing so.
And that I can agree with 100%. I've just grown a fucking heart lately, trust me I don't like it. I've lived very selfishly for a long while, it's ruined a few things - whatever- I grew a conscience and now I kinda care about others less fortunate too. The funny thing is I really don't have shit either, but more than many.
All I have I got myself (or from my parents), but I have been fortunate. Its not that I lack a heart/conscience; I want to help those who are less fortunate. Its just that I don't want the government and/or legislation to decide for me who I end up helping. Growing up around East St. Louis, I have a certain view on who I think I should be helping and who I shouldn't. A lot of that heartfelt and conscientious stuff ends up hurting people more in the long run.
I just don't like the idea of the gov taxing me more and then deciding who that money goes too when I feel like I can determine those things better myself. And if not really better, at least something that I want. When a person can go into a pharmacy and get free pills that the gov pays for while wearing a bunch of gold jewelry and sporting a fucking $200 hairdo (2nd hand experience), then that there is something seriously and hugely wrong that I don't want to be a part of.
Then you'd love my stand-up bro.
I've seen your myspace page. You are funny. Let me know if you make it to St. Louis.
I think we are too smart these days to be "fucked". And too many have too much at stock to let anything too out of control happen.
It seems so, but I don't think an out-of-control downward spiral is impossible.
I don't doubt for a minute that the rich are hurting a bit right now, due to excessive living of course, but they got it in control.
The people that I've talked to that are hurting are the ones who were a little too irresponsible in the first place. Which really sucks for the people who did all the right things in the first place. The lack of any benefit for them in doing the right thing is more like a punishment.
Obama won, things will be corrected now that plenty have grossly over indulged, and we'll get back to a stable society.
I'm not convinced but I hope to god that I'm wrong.
Those that were lost, well...sorry?
Lost?
Whatever we can live with at that point I guess. Those that don't survive the economic low will be replaced by others, and we go round and round. It works, I know that much. Unlike what kuresu may think I do see the functionality of capitalism. It works, period. But at what cost sometimes?
Lately I've been taking issue with the "cost" of doing it this way, it doesn't look great when we reflect on it.
I'm having trouble seeing between the lines here. Start a new thread so we can hash it out.
Wait, what's the topic here?...
From the OP:
quote:
While it is clear that this is the most severe recession since the depression, is it really so apocolyptic, or is it just that the news media's ability to scare us has improved a great deal since the last severe recession back in the late 1970's (you young'uns under 50 have never experienced a real recession as an adult).
Just wondering what other people think concerning how severe this recession is.
We seem to be on topic enough. I guess you don't have to start a new thread at all. So, what were you on about then?
How are you measuring, or determining what it, the "cost"?
What do you mean by "replaced"?
What about the cost makes it look so non-great?
For the record, I'm a young-un under 50 that has never experienced a real recession as an adult.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 45 of 49 (502907)
03-14-2009 1:06 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by onifre
03-13-2009 6:37 PM


If shit goes bad just threaten the work force with struggling ecomomies, constantly show them the failing job market and basically send us into a panic so we work harder, longer hours. It's mental slavery.
Like how we've been told how bad of a crisis this is and that we need to pass the bailout right now?
In other words, uncontroled and unregulated free markets drive small businesses out. The bigger guy fucks the little guy until there is nothing left BUT the big guy. Which everyone now works for, and is dependant on. Example: mom and pop grocery stores got run out by Walmart. Now everyone works at the Walmart. Now everyone buys at Walmart. Now Walmart controls that market.
Well, Wal*Mart does have the cheapest shit in town...
No one cares about bailing out the small businesses, our money is only going to take care of huge companies where most of the rich have their money invested. What about my friends auto dealer? The indie record store by my house that has been there since I was 10, now they're gone, but we got a Virgin Record Store. I can name a shit load like this, that no government bail out seems to come thier way. No one in our government gives a crap because it doesn't directly affect thier financial wealth, if it did they'd be all over it.
You know its sad but truuue-ugh!
That's the cost of capitalism. Those that get lost along recessions get replaced by the bigger guys who can sustain the recession, until just the bigger guys exist, and control every single market, and our lives.
We don't have to let them control our lives!

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 47 of 49 (503376)
03-18-2009 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by onifre
03-14-2009 10:15 AM


Don't know if you've ever seen this, Propaganda Media.
Swing...... and a miss.
Dude, you didn't even put an address in there

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