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Dr Adequate
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Message 20 of 38 (400276)
05-11-2007 9:14 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Buzsaw
05-11-2007 8:30 PM


Geology: A "Secularist" Writes
Secularists are trying to say the Grand Canyon is a couple of billion or so years old and yet the Mississippi is a mere 10000 years old. What gives here?? It appears they are trying to have it both ways so as to cover for both the deep GC and the relatively shallow Mississipi Valley as well as the relatively nonpronounced and small Mississippi Delta.
The average "secularist" will also tell you that it's the COLORADO river which flows through the bleedin' Grand Canyon, not the freakin' MISSISSIPPI river. It's this peculiar secularist ritual we have called "getting the frickin' facts right".
Sheesh, you guys.
This particular "secularist" would also like to remind you that there is a difference between the age of the rocks at the Grand Canyon site and the age of the canyon.
Some of the rocks are indeed 2 billion years old, but the canyon started being carved mere millions of years ago.
In the same way, a Renaissance scultor can carve a Jurrasic rock: the rock is millions of years old; the sculpture is centuries old; there is no contradiction here, as you'd have figured out if you'd spent ten seconds thought on the subject. But I guess thinking is a "secularist" thing.
I see there's quite a dispute at the GC Park Service about allowing the sales of an AIG book so as for both arguments to be available to the public.
Creationist rubbish about the Grand Canyon is already available to the public. If there is any dispute, it is over whether the Park Service should promulgate this trash.
If it's all up to the standard you've set here, then the answer is "no".
Can you give me any links referring to this dispute?
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Dr Adequate
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Message 23 of 38 (400283)
05-11-2007 9:41 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Coragyps
05-11-2007 9:22 PM


Age Of "The" Mississippi.
There's a site here which says: "the Upper Mississippi River as we know it has been in existence for 10,000 years".
Do you know the riddle of the philosopher's axe?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 26 of 38 (400290)
05-11-2007 10:14 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Coragyps
05-11-2007 9:50 PM


The Philosopher's Axe
The philosopher's axe has been passed down in his family from the days of his grandfather. Every now and then, it's been necessary to replace the handle; every now and then, it's been necessary to replace the blade. Is it still his grandfather's axe?
See also the "Ship of Theseus":
"The ship wherein Theseus and the youth of Athens returned [from Crete] had thirty oars, and was preserved by the Athenians down even to the time of Demetrius Phalereus, for they took away the old planks as they decayed, putting in new and stronger timber in their place, insomuch that this ship became a standing example among the philosophers, for the logical question of things that grow; one side holding that the ship remained the same, and the other contending that it was not the same." --- Plutarch.
My point is that you could argue that a river is not the Mississippi unless it flows where the Mississippi does now, or you could say that it's always the same river, it just keeps changing its course.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 28 of 38 (400293)
05-11-2007 10:23 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Vacate
05-11-2007 9:44 PM


Thanks For The Links
Wow, falsifying history is getting popular, isn't it?
"This past October Park Service employees contacted PEER to warn us that the video display at the Lincoln Memorial would be removed and revised under pressure from conservative and religious groups ...
These groups asked to cut out footage of gay rights, pro-choice and anti-Vietnam War demonstrations ... Under pressure from these groups and a conservative Kansas congressman, Todd Tiahrt who sits on the Appropriations Committee, the Park Service promised to develop a “more balanced” version of the video. Park Service spokespeople indicated that they were considering inserting footage from the Christian group Promise Keepers rally and pro-Gulf War demonstrators even though these events did not take place at the Memorial.
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The mind boggles.

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