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Topic: Religious views of Magic the Gathering--PLEASE HELP!
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 5 of 125 (217515)
06-16-2005 11:30 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by lfen
06-16-2005 11:11 PM
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I myself don't find D&D objectionable but the person object ing to allowing children to bring Magic cards to the program lumped their objection in with Dungeons and Dragons. mtg = d+d on trading cards. now, uh, this take might offend some, but it's the truth as far as i know it. i think christians object on an overly protective basis. fundamentalist christian parents (i've known a few) are very, VERY protective of their children. anything that give them the willies, or could possibly involved satan, or doesn't seem like it has to do with god, the church, or some other basic need (like eating or getting an education) they would like to save their children from. fundamentalists as a whole are very wary of temptation. they seem to avoid it at all costs. and something with pictures of beasts and demons and ghouls doesn't really seem like anything BUT temptation to idolatry to them. but the children aren't stupid -- they know they're not really summoning spirits and demons. it's just a strategy game. but i bet the parents will say something to the extent of it being real. (yes. really) i suggest rigging a deck to show them. remove all "magical" type instants, interrupts, etc. remove all "dark" kind of things (no black cards!). make it only creatures, preferably human (knights, etc), and artifacts, and made stuff on the level of disenchant. no fireballs, no tims (prodigal sorcerer in specific). just plain old average joe kinda cards.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 9 of 125 (217521)
06-17-2005 12:04 AM
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Reply to: Message 8 by dsv
06-16-2005 11:41 PM
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my best deck is a bruteforce fireball deck. every cheap buring card ever. it's quite methodical. my most creative deck would have to my furnace-elf deck. it's a manalooper (mana elves, aluren, recycle, mana flare) and a furnace deck (furnace of rath, fireball, and a goblin) combined. basically, it puts a lot of mana on the table, a furnace, and a goblin that deals damage to the opponent when it's dealt damage. so you fireball (or shivan dragon) the goblin, which re-doubles the damage to opponent. it ends up dealing sometimes more than 100 damage, if it works right. sometimes big creature decks just globber the elves too quickly for it work. but it was really just a gimmik. god, i haven't played magic in forever.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 11 of 125 (217524)
06-17-2005 12:38 AM
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Reply to: Message 10 by dsv
06-17-2005 12:14 AM
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yes, my phone number at work ends in "1337" i thought from the sound of your comment you played. i haven't in years, and i don't remember much. sorry for geeking out on you. lol
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 22 of 125 (217557)
06-17-2005 5:21 AM
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Reply to: Message 18 by lfen
06-17-2005 2:02 AM
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Well, if I can get out 3 cards in my cleric deck I can get as much life as I want, like in the billions, so go ahead and fireball me for 100, a 1000 even. I'll just laugh like a madman! :-P i once saw a deck that dealt infinite damage. it was rather impressive. had something to do with enduring renewal, aluren, and some creature you sacrificed to deal damage. might challenge a cleric deck pretty well, unless you can gain infinite life. i've also seen a deck that simply cards the opponent, by forcing them to go again and again, but never be able to actually do anything. i think that one was kismet, statis, and chonatogs. (i think i actually have a kismet and stasis somewhere. but no chronatogs.) although, the most simply ludacrous deck i have ever seen was that squirrel deck. that was insane. somehow, this guy got out a ton of squirrels (and i mean like hundreds, mostly tokens) and one of those coat of arms. that was right around the time i stopped playing magic.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 23 of 125 (217558)
06-17-2005 5:22 AM
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Reply to: Message 4 by crashfrog
06-16-2005 11:28 PM
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Magic: The Spending you know, i didn't even catch that the first time. as a former magic player, that's pretty darned funny.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 43 of 125 (217671)
06-17-2005 1:54 PM
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Reply to: Message 25 by crashfrog
06-17-2005 7:41 AM
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Bah I'll own you all with my black-red-blue control/permission deck. those were annoying. i never had enough counterspell-type cards to make one.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 44 of 125 (217672)
06-17-2005 1:54 PM
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Reply to: Message 26 by crashfrog
06-17-2005 7:47 AM
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I don't mean to bust anybody's balls about it - I've played it for years now, but I'm not very good, and I usually got my ass beat by people who had blown 200 dollars on rares to put in their deck. I mean I had heard of people who were so good at deckbuilding they could stomp with nothing but commons, but I never saw it in person. But I don't play to win, really. My deck is constructed so that I have a good time losing.  yeah, i totally agree.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 46 of 125 (217675)
06-17-2005 2:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 28 by nator
06-17-2005 8:43 AM
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I guess they will be "saving" their children and themselves from all art museums, too. sadly, yes. heck even my mom has been calling some contemporary art "pornographic" and she's not even religious.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 47 of 125 (217676)
06-17-2005 2:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 31 by PaulK
06-17-2005 9:53 AM
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"Wizards of the Cost". that's brilliant! lol.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 120 of 125 (222696)
07-08-2005 7:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 118 by Melchior
06-19-2005 1:15 PM
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Re: The game already exists
White is overrated, anyway. Some very good cards, yes, but it doesn't obliterate black as some people like to say it does. that almost sounds like a bet. i tell you, protection decks are annoying as hell.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 121 of 125 (222700)
07-08-2005 7:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 119 by Rahvin
07-08-2005 6:46 PM
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Re: The game already exists
My last deck was an all-black discard deck. I lost it when I moved, but it functioned by forcing the opponent to discard his entire hand as soon as possible so that he would have no options to counter me, and then forcing him to draw and discard additional cards - while dealing damage each time he did so. It was very effective. megrim decks! i found my megrim deck the other night. i remember it not working very well.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Re: I broke that deck
like i said, i remember it not working very well.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 125 of 125 (223495)
07-12-2005 8:31 PM
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Reply to: Message 124 by Rahvin
07-12-2005 3:46 PM
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Re: I broke that deck
yeah, i just could never get it to work. but then again, i never was very good...
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