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Zealot
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Message 99 of 104 (54559)
09-09-2003 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by crashfrog
08-07-2003 6:18 PM


Well, in trying to find the pro-circumcision studies I once had, I've more or less found a vast weight of data suggesting that I'm wrong about it.
So, I'll let my sons decide for themselves, I guess. No circumcisions for them unless they tell me they want them.
But neither am I going to get upset because I was myself circumcised. Of all the things my parents may have done to me, that had probably the least effect on my life.
Good choice Crash. My foreskin is like an eyelid to me. Without it, I'd need to scratch a whole lot more. I think only in 3rd world countries or countries where regular washing facilities are a shortage is circumcision a benefit, otherwise just tell your kids to give it a good washdown and they'll be alright.
cheers

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Zealot
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Message 101 of 104 (54739)
09-10-2003 9:59 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by crashfrog
09-10-2003 12:21 AM


Well, the wife and I are about 10 years away from this being an issue. I can only hope that American society has changed enough that I won't feel like I'm having to choose between a risky medical procedure and years of locker-room insult for him.
But hey, maybe they'll all be girls.
Hmm, I dont see being circumsized or not being circumsized as an issue, or an area of ridicule. We were about 50-50 in our school (boys school), but I know at one point in the state of NY, having circumcisions at birth were mandatory.
Hehe, besides usually when you make a comment about another man's goods it means you were looking at them, which in itself has alot of room for ridicule.

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Zealot
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Message 103 of 104 (54750)
09-10-2003 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 102 by greyline
09-10-2003 10:07 AM


Do you have a reference for this? I think it's very very very very unlikely. It is true that routine infant circumcision was often done without parental consent - before our modern age of litigation arrived.
Sorry mandatory is too strong a word, but compulsory or even 'without parental consent' would be sufficient for me to be highly upset.
I know because my fiance's brothers were both circumcised and the parents were not consulted on this in this (70s-80s). When I asked their mother, she was under the impression that they 'had to have it, all boys had to be circumsized'. Kinda like refusing to take an innoculation when you're in pre-school I suppose.
With all medical 'evidence' pointing towards the negative effects of not being circumsized, I see very few parents insisting on keeping the skin .
Gardening | Mothering Forum
"The radical practice of routinely circumcising babies did not begin until the Cold War era. This institutionalization of what amounted to compulsory circumcision was part of the same movement that pathologized and medicalized birth and actively discouraged breastfeeding. Private-sector, corporate-run hospitals institutionalized routine circumcision without ever consulting the American people. There was no public debate or referendum. It was only in the 1970s that a series of lawsuits forced hospitals to obtain parental consent to perform this contraindicated but highly profitable surgery. "
- How accurate I dont know.
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