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Author Topic:   Fossil Distribution and Method of Deposition in Geological Layers
Trixie
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Message 14 of 20 (194846)
03-27-2005 3:55 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Nighttrain
03-26-2005 9:58 PM


I don't think the arguments have been weak
I think we've laboured under the misapprehension that Faith was genuinely interested in learning something new. All the replies have been easy to follow, well thought-out, clearly expressed and contain plenty of non-contentious information. Unfortunately they have been addressed to someone without a modicum of knowledge of, or interest in science as it exists or as it is practiced. Not only that, but having to explain that certain things can be observed happening by anyone with a garden, yet having that disputed without more than personal prejudice against it is like banging your head on a brick wall.
I don't think that the evolutionists arguments have been poor in themselves, but I think that the evolutionists arguments have overestimated the common sense of the person they were directed at. In my opinion nothing can be done to improve what was attempted, since if someone doesn't want to learn, they won't. They indulge in closing their eyes, covering their ears and singing loudly to block out the facts. This has happened time and again in the debate(s) when people have made enormous efforts to try to explain and their explanations have been hand-waved away. To be honest, if someone tried to claim that the fact it rains sometimes is consistent with evolution, the reply given would be along the lines of "but I just can't believe in rain, its not logical", regardless of the person's personal experience.
I don't really want to have a go at Faith as she does ask some interesting questions. If she would only look at the even more interesting answers she gets, instead of dismissing them out of hand, I would be willing to participate more.
Yes, Admin, this is a bit off topic, but I think it does address one of the problems we've had in trying to explain fossil distribution and method of deposition in geological layers. It may be worthwhile to provide a description (with photographs) of just what we're talking about - a sort of primer - and then find out if there are any problems with that before moving on to the next step. As it is, we're going round in circles.

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Trixie
Member (Idle past 3735 days)
Posts: 1011
From: Edinburgh
Joined: 01-03-2004


Message 20 of 20 (195000)
03-28-2005 3:43 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by PaulK
03-28-2005 2:47 PM


Yet another wee point
I did notice in the dinosaurs up a mountain idea that, when asked if grass ran up the mountain too, she missed the point completely that grasses are found way above dinosaurs and explained it as grass washing down the mountain with the dinosaur remains. This, to me, suggests that she wants to build up theories of how things happened, whithout even knowing what happened. She's explaining how grass is found with dinosaurs without realising that grasses are not found with dinosaurs. Its arguing from a point of total ignorance and shows a complete lack of wanting to learn anything about the subject she wishes to pontificate on.
I would encourage Faith to find out more about the theory she's trying to trash, otherwise she just ends up trashing an idea that no-one is putting forwards. If you want to show a theory is wrong it helps to know what the theory actually states, otherwise how do you know it's wrong in the first place?

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