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Author Topic:   Genetics and Human Brain Evolution
kuresu
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Message 80 of 157 (360129)
10-31-2006 12:48 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by eggasai
10-31-2006 12:41 PM


Re: I've read the papers, now why not address the isssues I raised?
I know what the problem is, you don't know what a reading frame is
you don't know who WK is, do you?
he's a geneticist, a real live, honest to god, working scientist.
and you don't get to those positions by being stupid.
now tell me, what's you're qualification in genetics?

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kuresu
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Message 92 of 157 (360269)
10-31-2006 8:46 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by eggasai
10-31-2006 5:29 PM


Another basic comprehension failure and a lie
this has nothing to do with your all's genetics contest directly, however . . .
1)whenever an organism is put into a new habitat, it changes--one of the cause of speciation. In this case, the chimps stuck with the trees, while we went to the grasslands. we were adapted, as the chimps are, quite well for tree life.
2) our brain size did not increase because we left Africa. if you'll note, our direct anscestors came from Africa no later than 40,000 yrs ago. (homo sapiens left africa at this time, homo erectus left at the time you state. we are decesended from the african homo erectus*)
3)that last statement, about the "stasis" of chimps, is false. Mutations do occur in them. So they will have changed. As a side note, they haven't really moved out of their niche, so they have remained relatively the same, but . . .
By the way, did you ever notice that none of the fossils found in equtaorial Africa are ape ancestors, only hominids?
really, well I never . . .
bull.
quote:
The three primates called Bugtipithecus inexpectans, Phileosimias kamali, and Phileosimias brahuiorum all date back to the Oligocene some 30 million years ago - when monkeys dominated only Africa. These were small lemur-like catarrhines that prospered in an ancient tropical rainforest
Eosimias - Wikipedia
while the fossils listed in this article were found in Pakistan, you'll notice that it says that monkeys were in in Africa. And monkeys are not apes. This logically means that we should find monkey fossils in Africa.
quote:
Victoriapithecus macinnesi was a primate. It was described from a single fossil specimen, the oldest Old World monkey skull fossil. It was discovered near Lake Victoria in Kenya
Victoriapithecus - Wikipedia
and what's this!? a monkey fossil, actually in Africa.
And as to the assertion that all these ape fossils are hominid ancestors, what of:
quote:
However, chimpanzee fossils have now been reported from Kenya
However, chimpanzee fossils have now been reported from Kenya
you'll note that this is a chimp fossil, and chimps are not our ancestors, and they are apes.

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kuresu
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Message 99 of 157 (360617)
11-02-2006 1:03 AM


what is it with the recent string of pity parties on how "twisted" evolutionits are in debating creationists lately? First buz, and now this dude.
to eggassai--we're not lying about things. honest to god. we don't intentionally misinterpret things to support our "false theory". most of the time, we do know what we're talking about (in our respective fields). there's no conspiracy, no purposeful misleading. so instead of insulting us by calling us liars (which is against the forum rules that is--the whole insulting thing), can you at least try to give a real criticism, instead of labelling us all liars purposely misleading others?

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kuresu
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Message 150 of 157 (363337)
11-12-2006 1:42 AM


can someone please, please tell me how 2x10^-8/bp/generation is not:
2x10^-8 mutations (per or /) base pairs (per or /) generation (per or /)?
under normal logic, that first (per or /) would invalidate the formula meaning 2x10^-8 base pairs. It's (per or /) base pairs, for crying out loud!

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