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Author Topic:   Is there any indication of increased intellegence over time within the Human species?
riVeRraT
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Message 84 of 99 (262213)
11-21-2005 10:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by jar
08-05-2005 12:32 PM


Late comer
Sorry I didn't read through the whole thread, but I like the OP and had something to say, or more accurately a question to ask
1 is there some minimal brain size needed?
2 are there certain brain areas needed?
3 is there a method of measuring intellegence based simply on brain size?
I have no clue the answers to these questions. But this question:
4 is there any evidence to show that intellegence has increased over time?
I will answer with another question.
I recently saw a special on national geographic channel about the discovery of a "wolfe boy" A boy raised by wolves. I don't remember all the specifics, but a scientist, or a psychologists took him to try and raise him, and teach him to be accepted in society. It was tough, and the boy did not respond very well. Having been raised by wolves, he did not appear intelligent at all. He was no smarter than a wolfe. Funny millions of years of evolution gone in the blink of an eye.
So my question is if we get smarter over time, and evolution, then why was this boy so "dumb"?
Is that evidence against "intelligence increasing over time"
I will add, that from watching that, I see our intelligence is based directly on what the person before has discovered, and how well it has been taught to us, which forms our "neural networks?" which allows us to take that thinking to the next level?
Our species has the ability to communicate better than any other species, which allows us to be "smarter". Is that ability the only thing, or main thing that allows us to become smarter?

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riVeRraT
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Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
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Message 86 of 99 (262279)
11-22-2005 6:54 AM
Reply to: Message 85 by nwr
11-21-2005 10:38 PM


Re: Late comer
It is known that if they are not exposed to language early enough, they will never be able to acquire it very will (the so-called critical age). However, they might have a lot of intelligence, but they are unable to display it in ways that we can discern.
Which leads back to the other question I posted. Is our intellligence heavily relying on our ability to communicate.
I wold think there is 2 kinds of intelligence, natural instincts, and intelligence over time. Or intelligence carried over from generation to generation.
The boy in the show displayed intelligence, but nothing really beyond what he learned from the wolves. He started learning quickly, that is compared to a wolfe, but slowly compared to any other child.
He also had a hard time displaying affection, and was just as wild as the wolves.
I wonder if he felt there was a God, when he was in that state.
Helen Keller knew about Jesus before anyone ever taught her, she just didn't know his name.

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