EvC Forum: Are Fundamentalists Inherently Immoral

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Theodoric

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Message 47 of 161 (521381)
08-27-2009 9:45 AM

Reply to: Message 29 by Holyfire23
08-26-2009 11:07 PM

Can you provide a source for this story? There are evil people everywhere, I venture to guess the vast majority of Thais find this story repulsive too.

I just find it convenient that christians tell a story of how evil a culture is when they are trying to proselytize to that culture. The context of the story is racism at its core. You are attributing the vile and disgusting acts of a few individuals to a whole people. Do you truly believe this is a classic ever day occurrence in every city and town in Thailand? Do you think nothing like this ever happens in "christian" nations? That Sir, is offensive.

In our culture this is repulsive, but in their culture it is a way of entertainment.

How the hell do you get that out of the story? That is disgusting and offfensive that you would even suggest that it is a cultural norm. Do you know who the biggest abusers for these young boys and girls are? Christians from the west.

Again, can you supply an reputable source for the story?

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Message 67 of 161 (521560)
08-27-2009 10:31 PM

Reply to: Message 59 by Modulous
08-27-2009 5:01 PM

Unless we think that Hitler's actions made for a more secure future so that the violent deaths of millions enabled the peaceful existence of billions.

There is the rub. How do we know that the alternative to Hitler wouldn't be worse?

This whole moralistic mental exercise of whether raping Hitlers mother or killing Hitler as a baby is a futile and wasteful exercise. We have no idea what the alternative is. It could be magnitudes worse. Do we know that Hitlers atrocities did killed a person that birthed a person that would have started a worldwide holocaust. We don't? We never will.

The mental exercise is futile because w have no idea what the affects may have been.

Never mess with the timeline.

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Message 68 of 161 (521563)
08-27-2009 10:32 PM

Reply to: Message 60 by Perdition
08-27-2009 5:07 PM

The actual moral theory I subscribe to would say, yes go ahead and rape his mother if you're sure it will result in saving 100,000s of people, but I'm still not sure if I could do it.

But you would never know what the results would be.

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