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Author Topic:   Is biblegod pro life?
Hyroglyphx
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Message 54 of 59 (540585)
12-26-2009 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by RCS
10-05-2009 3:36 AM


If the christians have suddenly turned "pro life" it hypocrytic and a sham unless they expunge and repudiate and condemn such passages of bible.
You make a good point. I have pointed this out too. Everyone has various justifications, however, and different reasons they assume this or that. For instance in many eastern religions, Hinduism included, it is an affront to kill anything at all. And yet some justify abortion for the same reason others do.
Are these duplicitous and hypocritical Hindu's? Maybe. Perhaps more likely is everyone a little duplicitous and hypocritical; a sad but true fact.

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." --John Adams

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 55 of 59 (540586)
12-26-2009 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Izanagi
10-06-2009 12:47 PM


Re: Born Early, Not Dead
So when I say God is pro-choice, what I mean is that God will allow you the option, but God does say that if you take the option there are consequences.
I disagree with the whole verbiage of Pro-Choice and Pro-Life, as if pro-lifers are against choosing things or as if Pro-Choicers are against life!
It should be just called "anti" or "pro" abortion because that is what we are dealing with. You either fundamentally believe that it should be prohibited or not.

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." --John Adams

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 57 of 59 (540666)
12-27-2009 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 56 by bluescat48
12-26-2009 7:53 PM


Re: Born Early, Not Dead
Not quite, for I am anti abortion , but pro choice. I don't feel that it should be up to me what "Mary"(figurative) wants. If she chooses to abort, that is her business, not mine.
You're either for the premise of abortion or against it on a fundamental level. If you think that abortion is the murder of an individual, you are anti-abortion. If you think that allowing each individual the choice to have an abortion makes you pro-abortion.
No one is anti-choice or anti-life. Every one is pro-choice and pro-life. These terms were invented by both sides to illicit sympathy to their cause.
Besides it seems meaningless to say that you are against abortion for yourself but for it for everyone else being that, by your physiology, you could never conceive.

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." --John Adams

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 59 of 59 (540679)
12-27-2009 1:27 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by bluescat48
12-27-2009 1:08 PM


Re: Born Early, Not Dead
You are missing the point. I am saying that my views should have no effect on a person who wants an abortion. My point is that I don't believe that a person should be making decisions on the views of some one else, whether abortion, gay-marriage, war or the death penalty.
Then it appears you missed my point. All I was saying is that I don't like the terminology.

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." --John Adams

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