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Phat
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Message 92 of 427 (540818)
12-29-2009 11:14 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by Dawn Bertot
12-29-2009 9:02 AM


Re: Blind leading the blind
EMA writes:
God never intended for them to have a physical king and he demonstrates clearly a reference to himself as king in those passages as quoted above and as any thinking person can see a reference to Christ as a spiritual king.
Just a quick comment. Recently I read a book on the Science of Thinking. Some of the observations were:
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I mean the kind of thinking that is forced on us when we are deciding on a course to pursue, on a life work to take up perhaps; the kind of thinking that was forced on us in our younger days when we had to find a solution to a problem in mathematics, or when we tackled psychology in college. I do not mean " thinking in snatches", or holding petty opinions on this subject and on that. I mean thought on significant questions which lie outside the bounds of your narrow personal welfare.
In order to approach a subject rationally, it is often better to disassociate what you want it to say versus what it actually says.
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Modern psychologists tell us that all reasoning begins in perplexity, hesitation, doubt. "The process of reasoning is one of problem solving. . . . The occasion for the reasoning is always a thwarted purpose.'' It is essential we keep this in mind. It differs from the popular conception even more
than may appear at first sight. If a ma/n were to know everything he could not think. Nothing would ever puzzle him, his purposes would never be thwarted, he would never experience perplexity or doubt, he would have no problems.
If we are to conceive of God as an All-Knower, we cannot conceive of Him as a Thinking Being. Thinking is reserved for beings of finite intelligence. Were we to study the origin and evolution of thinking, we would doubtless find that thinking arose in just this wayfrom thwarted purposes. If our lives and the lives of our animal ancestors had always run smoothly, if our every desire were immediately satisfied, if we never met an obstacle in anything we tried to do,
thinking would never have appeared on this planet.
so I ask:
  • How can you have it in your mind what "God intended"? Really. Tell me. Don't tell me that the Spirit of the Lord within you knows the answers. That is not fair nor rational.
  • Why are you trying to get Brian to agree with you? What makes you so certain that the way you see an issue is the right answer?

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