How do Intelligent Design People act?

Re the two links in the OP.Dembski assumed that a conspiracy was taking place against teaching ID in science classes, but even without Judge Jone’s summary that ID is a religious view, a mere re-labeling of creationism, and not a scientific theory it would fall into the same category as all the other unproven theories like String Theory — there’s no point in teaching it at school level when children already have a full timetable.It would be a fine, not to say essential, candidate for science teaching once it has made some testable and proven predictions, i.e. there is well-founded evidence for it as with, say, Ohm’s Law or evolution.The only predictions I know of were Beth’s claims for irreducible complexity that were quickly and easily found to be false. Does anyone know of any other predictions (or should that be prophesies?)

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Oh don't listen to me, I'm just a girl

As a Christian, I will argue with your premise that ID is to glorify God — rather it is to glorify the Bible.Some more points for your list:- The Intelligent Designer is required to act within the retrospective guidelines as set out in the theory (which prohibit any form of evolution as a valid design tool) and so is clearly denied omnipotence. In Baptist circles this is known as shutting God in a box.- ID does appeal to folk who like things to be simple. One proponent remarked that the universe cannot be billions of years old because God would never do anything so unimaginable. (I know, I know).- By making such a big deal out of creation (Jesus said zilch about it), and often by refusing to get beyond the first paragraph of the first page of the Bible, ID proponents cause friction in the church and send out the message that faith is irrelevant.

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Oh don't listen to me, I'm just a girl

That's a bit hard on sincere followers who get caught up in what I can only describe as Bible worship, but as for the leaders, say it plain:

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Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.

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Mt 23:15 NIV

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Coyote - thanks! but I'll probably be excommunicated now for quoting scripture

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Oh don't listen to me, I'm just a girl

Well said.I remember my high school physics teacher, Doc Harvey, sitting us down and saying that he believed everything he would teach us, but only after weighing the evidence, and the main point of his lessons would be that we should do the same and never take him on authority. He was the best.

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Oh don't listen to me, I'm just a girl

That’s my understanding too, except that more often than not it goes
Observe, Theorize, Test, Fail, Throw the theory in the trash and start overMy understanding of ID is
Observe the target audience, Make up a theory that sounds plausable, ConcludeAs others here have said, it misses the whole point of science — curiosity about the nature world. If taught anywhere, it would be in The Politics Of Mind Control 101 or The History of Dishonest Marketing.

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Oh don't listen to me, I'm just a girl