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Chiroptera
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Message 23 of 43 (580202)
09-08-2010 7:23 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by Minority Report
09-08-2010 5:21 AM


This approach suggests that your concern is more for finding a politically correct/fit with modern times type interpretation, rather than finding the original intended meaning.
It might also suggest that he realizes that it is useless and impossible to find the original intended meaning of texts written by people who died over two and a half millenia ago.

To count as an atheist, one needn't claim to have proof that there are no gods. One only needs to believe that the evidence on the god question is in a similar state to the evidence on the werewolf question. -- John McCarthy

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Chiroptera
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Message 35 of 43 (580340)
09-08-2010 6:26 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by slevesque
09-08-2010 10:07 AM


Wow, let's stop studying Hieroglyphs as well then, I guess. If it's impossible for us to understand their intended meaning even if we can read them ...
If I had said that no one should read the Bible, then I would understand your point. Since that I didn't say that at all I'm at a lost at what your point is.

To count as an atheist, one needn't claim to have proof that there are no gods. One only needs to believe that the evidence on the god question is in a similar state to the evidence on the werewolf question. -- John McCarthy

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Chiroptera
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Message 41 of 43 (580462)
09-09-2010 7:41 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by slevesque
09-08-2010 6:46 PM


Well you said even if we do read it, we can't know what the author intended to say. This is saying that trying to understand the text is useless.
I disagree that the two are the same thing. It may very well be a worthwhile endeavor to gain an understanding of your favorite ancient text. I'm just pointing out that usually one's understanding of the text may not be what the writer's intent was (and this is true, by the way, even for texts where the author is still living).
Also, I should think that it is obvious that in the case of texts that are or may be poetic, metaphoric, and heavily redacted over the course of several centuries and where the writers and redactors are long dead, their intents might be difficult or impossible to discern. Is that really so controversial?
That doesn't mean that it's impossible in each and every case, or that you can't come to your own understanding of the texts, or that such an endeavor is not worthwhile.

To count as an atheist, one needn't claim to have proof that there are no gods. One only needs to believe that the evidence on the god question is in a similar state to the evidence on the werewolf question. -- John McCarthy

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