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For Hispanics, perhaps america is SLIGHTLY better than Mexico when it comes to not being de-nogginated?

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Beheadings signal cartel's arrival in small Mexican town

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. . . beheadings are becoming distressingly routine amid Mexico’s gangland turmoil. More than 200 victims have been decapitated in the past few years, according to the count by the National Human Rights Commission, a government agency.

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Beheadings signal cartel's arrival in small Mexican townAs far as Haiti and Cuba, gosh, america has done such an irreparably beautiful job of creating paradises there, I don't know why they would want to leave their homes. Same for those ingrateful Iraqis. Edited by dronester, : added quoteEdited by dronester, : re-spelled de-nogginated.

It's certainly true that, if you were a Fox News listener or viewer, you would have heard this lie.But it's certainly a lie. There was absolutely no requirement under the Community Reinvestment Act that banks make loans to people who could not meet the income and asset requirements for payment. And, in fact, loans made under the CRA program have had a higher repayment rate than the average loan in that income class.The sole requirement of the CRA program was that banks could not racially discriminate in financing by the practice of "redlining"; in other words, saying "we won't make loans under any circumstances to people who live in minority areas." Could you point out the "inflation of the people's money" on this graph, please? LOL! Most Tea Partiers are retired folks on Social Security or on some form of disability - its estimated that as much as 75% of the Tea Party movement is comprised of people on the public dole. In one instance, a Tea Party rally was funded by taxpayers to the tune of $14,000; approximately $2000 for every participant. (As a taxpayer myself: you're welcome.)

You can, of course, support these assertions with evidence, right Buz?After all, if I'm to believe the above, I have to believe what you say that Fox News said is true. Given the track record of both yourself and of Fox News for saying things that are factually incorrect, I just can't muster that amount of trust for either party, let alone both.Do you have actual evidence that Democratic Congress-critters "demanded" that banks issue loans to people who could not possibly afford them? Do you have actual evidence that Congress could in any way make such demands of private banks? DO you have any evidence that Congress made any guarantees to private banks to "bail them out" in case of a mass default, ahead of the actual crisis?See, the only "similar" (and I use the term loosely) Federally run initiatives I know of to what you're saying would be Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Fannie Mae was set up after the Great Depression as a way to use Federal funds to help local banks issue more loans and increase home ownership - which is not at all the same as encouraging banks to issue loans to people who cannot repay them.But of course I could very easily imagine Glenn Beck converting any New Deal program into his imaginary fantasy-land history, where he would describe it exactly the way you just did.So, Buz...any evidence to back what you say Fox News has claimed?

You said: Has been the most free.That's not a factual statement. There was a time when they were not free and non-black minorities were treated horribly too. So were women and gays...which are actually still mistreated.Hispanics and blacks are currently doing fine in many nations. Equally free not just in the US. Were any of them doing that before the 60's? You really just mean the darkest candidate, because Obama is black. If you saw a guy of his color in your neighborhood, you tell the cops it was black guy.- Oni

If there is one thing America (and the Western world more generally) is good at it is public relations. Selling itself.As someone who worked in a number of developing countries I have known many many people raised on the belief that if they could just get to America or (to a lesser extent) Western Europe their lives would improve beyond all imagination. Unsurprisingly their whole aim in life becomes to do just that. I'm not talking about starving refugees here. But taxi drivers, bar owners, craftsmen, mechanics etc. etc. from places like Guyana, Tanzania, Belize, Philippines etc. etc.Then they get here and end up working shit jobs on minimum wage and living in squalid ghettos. Barely even registering on the first rung of society. If they are lucky. Far less status and job satisfaction than they had at home. Barely any increase in genuine material wealth beyond the ability to buy the ubiquitous Western fast food that seemed so glamorous back home. In many many cases the people would have been much better off with their relatively decent lives in their own countries.Some see the con. Many refuse to give up on the dream despite the odds stacked against them ever achieving it. A lot see the reality but decide to stick it out in the hope that their kids can benefit from the perceived opportunities in the way that they thought they would. In most cases increasing lack of social mobility makes even that noble long term aspiration a probable pipe-dream.Some people come because they genuinely live in states of extreme oppression and are genuinely desperate. But many come because they have been sold the same crock of shit that you have Buz. Brainwashed into thinking how frikkin great everything is "here" and how awful the rest of the world is in comparison. But it isn't that great for many. And it is highly doubtful whether being stuck at the very bottom of an industrialised Western society is a better place to be than in the middle of many other places.

Plus, the US is relatively close, has no means of identifying aliens and is a convenient gateway to move on to a First World Nation like Canada.

any they claim the tea party is racist, ROFLMFAO!-------------------------------------------Here in DC @ Franklin Park: it looks like a bunch of hippies out here in DC. about 20 people during the day and in the morning, and then 100s after work. To me that is the rub. too many people have jobs, to seriously participate, this aint Cairo. It seems like joke to me, and is hard to take them seriously.

Cause America is better than the countries they're leaving. That's not saying America is the greatest, just that it's not the worst. It's like you Buz, you're a racist. You're not on the level of the KKK but you're not exactly accepting of those who have a different skin tone than you do.

Page not found | Media Research CenterYeah let's vote for the guy who insisted there was no housing bubble. With this kind of economic foresight, the situation will surely get better. As you noted, he even said right here that many in the media have been foretelling about the housing bubble while he insisted there was no such bubble. The guy is just a Wall Street shill, no wonder he opposes the "occupy Wall Street" movement. He's part of the group of guys that have been helping pumping house prices for the benefit of his banksters buddies so with him, expect more banks bailouts, mark to fantasy and other frauds from banks (not that the current republicans/democrats are any better in this regard).For more info in mark to fantasy btw:
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
allowing banks to put their own values for their assets which resulted in those kinds of things:
http://www2.fdic.gov/hsob/hsobRpt.asp
To get the interesting results, you need after clicking on the links to go to "Failures & Assistance Transactions", select the years between 2009 and 2011 and submit report.
The number are in thousands of dollars meaning that when they write 100,000 , it means 100 millions.
You can see there that the 239,916 in total assets for FIRST INTERNATIONAL BANK corresponds to $239.9 million in total assets in the press report : http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/press/2011/pr11156.html
Scrolling down on the table that you produced shows you that for 243,738,872,000 dollars in deposits in failed banks (and insured by the FDIC), the FDIC incured a loss of 61,302,707,000 dollars despite the value of assets used to reimburse the depositors claimed at 292,529,467,000 dollars. What it means that the assets actually sold at 243,738,872,000-61,302,707,000=182,436,165,000 dollars resulting in the overevaluation of the assets at around (292,529,467,000/182,436,165,000)-1=60%!!Notice that I got those results from the FDIC's official site, so I think it should be pretty accurate.Edited by Son, : No reason given.Edited by Son, : No reason given.

No, if you were a Fox News listener you'd be under the delusion that that was the case. 'Cos of being lied to. And your evidence for this is ... ?

So, already we've found one issue on which you agree with 99.999% of the protestors.

Well, Jonsey, pray tell, if America is not the greatest for Hispanics and blacks from Mexico, Haite and Cuba, the nations which I mentioned, what nation on the planet is greater for them in the proximity where they would be able to go to?As for your off topic false charges of me being a racist, I'll refute that notion in another thread where it would be more on topic. You have absolutely no documentation for that meanspirited lie. It's nothing but a groundless personal attack, contrary to forum guidelines which you keep on keeping on posting.

As always, Sweden is doing pretty well for itself.

We went over this Buz. America may not be the best but it is better than where they are, it is the best country that they can easily get to. It's harder for them to get to Canada than it is for them to get to the US. If your racism is off topic why did you bring it up back in message 120? The first line in my sig proves these above quotes to be false.

Many Cubans live comfortably in Spain, South America (Brazil, Venezuela, etc.), Canada and in the UK.Also, Cubans don't live in all the US. Mainly New York, New Jersey, Florida, California, and Texas. Care to guess why? I'll give you a hint, it has to do with the way they're treated in other areas.Hatians are limited to even less states.Mexicans are anywhere you care to exploit them.And as long as blacks stay in their neighborhoods, you tolerate them. But the second they start moving into white neighborhoods you guys take flight. Lets be honest here, Buz.- Oni