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Phat
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Message 40 of 117 (652103)
02-12-2012 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by jar
02-12-2012 12:22 PM


Re: No Suffering or Eternal Torture
jar writes:
The Bible also tells us the humans are capable of determining what is just and that when god is being unjust, humans need to dope slap the boy and set her straight.
Show me a couple of places where the collection of books says this?
Have you ever actually read the Bible Buz?
You know that Buz has read the Bible...he just interprets it differently than you do...don't sound like a broken record!
I also see no evidence that Jesus ever tells anyone to correct him if he is wrong.

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Phat
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Message 42 of 117 (652108)
02-12-2012 2:22 PM
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02-12-2012 2:09 PM


Why should we correct God?
OK, but when the book says "And the LORD said..." surely one doesn't think that an actual booming voice spoke out! Humans were just telling other humans a story...right? I'm not saying that the stories were not inspired, but why on earth would a storyteller make God out to be imperfect and correctable, as if He is some out of touch parent who doesn't know how to program the i-phone?
This whole idea of correcting God plays well in educating humans as to their responsibility, but it doesn't say much for the God YOU seem to be marketing. The Creator of all seen and unseen would be far more intelligent, no?

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Message 57 of 117 (652226)
02-13-2012 7:32 AM
Reply to: Message 56 by Jon
02-13-2012 7:23 AM


Re: God's not everyones Father but He is still loving
Jon writes:
Well, anyone who tortures their own son to death as part of some ritualistic display of 'love' is pretty well certifiable in my book.
God can kill anyone he wants, you see...for He can make the boo boos go away.
This whole idea of making God out to be cruel just wont cut it when taken into consideration that He can undo anything done.
Pain is simply amplified awareness...and God may well use pain to bring certain things to our awareness...but His mercy takes every overactive neuron and turns it into sugar plums.

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