Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 64 (9164 total)
4 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,877 Year: 4,134/9,624 Month: 1,005/974 Week: 332/286 Day: 53/40 Hour: 0/4


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Labor Pains In Colorado
Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 26 of 166 (656305)
03-17-2012 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Phat
03-16-2012 5:39 PM


Who's To Blame
Phat writes:
Union wages are what saves a middle class of consumers, however...nobody can help the economy (apart from wealthy stockholders) much by making $8.00 an hour...especially with inflation being factored in. I am open to ideas concerning this grim economic situation. ...................
Republicans crow about creating jobs, but what good are minimum wage jobs in todays economic dynamic?
Union jobs are what obliterates the middle class employment and of consumers of American products. .
It is the union thug leaders who oppose right to work laws, ever working to legislate and implement laws which forbid competitive arbitration for contracts.
For example, here in NY state all government jobs are not open to best price bidding but must be expensive union labor. This hurts the middle class whose tax $$ must pay the union thugocracy.
Union dues, regardless of edeology of the payers, is essentially a bribe/contribution to the Democratic establishment which in turn mandates union expensive contracts for employment.
The NEA equally mandates teachers union membership for the same reason. Dues, regardless of affiliation go to the coffers of the Obama type establishment.
As for creating jobs, can you blame a company who has the choice of paying union labor or foreign workers for going offshore for employment. I don't. Companies are committed to the best $$ return for their stockholders. That's the only sensible alternative.
So Phat, you need to appreciat the stockholders, who for the most part are the middle class. Whether or not they are middle or high income, without them, there would be no commerce in the US an we would be as the Muslim block of nations and other third world countries who produce nothing, including jobs.
I didn't have time to review so bear with errors.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1 by Phat, posted 03-16-2012 5:39 PM Phat has seen this message but not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 32 by jar, posted 03-17-2012 5:12 PM Buzsaw has replied

Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 37 of 166 (656358)
03-17-2012 10:00 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by jar
03-17-2012 5:12 PM


Re: Who's To Blame
jar writes:
That's amazing Buz.
Union workers are not middle class?
They are indeed middle class, Jar. However, they not only oppose right to work and prevent competitive bidding on behalf of middle class taxpayers but shoot themselves in the foot by causing companies to move their operations abroad, etc.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

This message is a reply to:
 Message 32 by jar, posted 03-17-2012 5:12 PM jar has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 38 by jar, posted 03-17-2012 10:12 PM Buzsaw has seen this message but not replied
 Message 39 by hooah212002, posted 03-18-2012 10:49 AM Buzsaw has not replied
 Message 41 by crashfrog, posted 03-18-2012 9:36 PM Buzsaw has not replied
 Message 42 by frako, posted 03-19-2012 8:19 AM Buzsaw has not replied

Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024