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Islam and Creation?

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ringo
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08-18-2014 1:01 PM 		Reply to: Message 19 by Epee
08-18-2014 10:57 AM

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Every story ever written can be taken allegorically. But when discussing Star Wars with friends, I don't assume that we're discussing it as a metaphor for World War 2, we discuss it literally until someone makes an argument that a specific part is a metaphor.
But you don't really discuss it literally, do you? You discuss it as fiction, which is not literally true but may not be allegorical or metaphorical either.
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Epee writes:
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It's impossible to tell if something is supposed to be a metaphor or not without the author specifically telling you so.
A simile is explicit; a metaphor may not be. But metaphors are often clearly metaphorical - e.g. "thundering applause" is not literally thunder but it is a clear comparison to thunder.
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Epee writes:
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I'm not an expert on the bible by any means, so do point out biblical verses that prove me wrong.
Gladly.
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Psalm 23:1 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.
Nobody believes the psalm was written by a sheep.
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Edited by ringo, : Speling.
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ringo
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08-18-2014 1:21 PM 		Reply to: Message 26 by Epee
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I discuss it as literally true within that realm of fiction.
"Literally true but not literally true" is poor terminology. You should make a distinction between "literal truth" - i.e. actually, really, tangibly does happen - and "fictional consitency".
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